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this guy sounds weird but...
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She says she is Natty
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some cool blog's that mak...
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  this guy sounds weird but interesting
Posted by: Plato - 11-13-2019, 05:00 PM - Forum: The Crazy World We Live In - No Replies


still don't get what he plan is ?????????/

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  Danai Gurira aka Michonne from Walking Dead - good example of natural fit woman
Posted by: Navigator - 11-12-2019, 07:52 PM - Forum: Natty Or Not - No Replies

With abs and some muscle but very thin and skinny with low BF

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  Back Training
Posted by: Screamager - 11-11-2019, 07:44 AM - Forum: Training - Replies (3)

Just few exercises that i find useful for complete back development


  •  Chin-up
  •  Pull-over (Nautilus machine)
  •  Scapula pull-up

"Small" muscles:
  •  Inverted Row
  •  Chest-supported Row
  •  Bulgarian Row 
  •  Deadlift
  •  Overhead Press
  •  Shrugs

Spinal Erectors:
  • Deadlift
  • Hyperextensions
  • Barbell Row (Pendlay style)
  • Dead-stop one-arm dumbbell Row

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Photo She says she is Natty
Posted by: justaguy - 11-06-2019, 05:42 PM - Forum: Natty Or Not - Replies (3)

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  some cool blog's that make you think!
Posted by: Plato - 11-06-2019, 01:01 PM - Forum: OffTopic - No Replies








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  A Desert in the Sky discussion
Posted by: Loverboy - 11-04-2019, 01:04 PM - Forum: Love & relationships... - Replies (2)

I finished the book this morning after increasingly non-stop reading.


Reflecting on him a bit, Harry strikes me as a Gollum-like character. He is torn between peace and war internally and externally. By the point we are let into his life, Harry is increasingly using his own cynicism to justify and rationalize what could be interpreted as committing aggressive "war crimes" externally, rather than Geneva-approved acts. He has begun committing what he condemns, or would condemn if it was done to him. But whereas Gollum was first driven to that by stumbling on something he was not aware of before and now wishes to keep, Harry is driven to it by what he was always looking for and is intensely aware that he misses. Gollum has "forgotten the taste of bread" and "the softness of the wind" whereas Harry is tortured by his spots of remembrance of tasting and touching a woman. Both of them are recluses, "bugs in the system" that do not socialize evenly with others. They are both increasingly deranged by the fear, hate and despair they experience in and outside of themselves. We are told that, as Gollum used to be Smeagol, Harry did not always use to feel the aggressive way he now increasingly does.

It pained me to read many things that Harry went through and noted, because they struck me as so familiar. One of those notations brings me to another point. Harry rages against the conformity of the system. But maybe part of that conformity is the marketing and belief that we are all supposed to be unique? There are billions of people in the world, all sharing the same basic genetics and environments. They have the same basic needs and desires for food, shelter, sex, affection, health and selfesteem. How many ways are there to be "unique"? is it intrinsically satisfying, or is it the system saying that you should find it so? if happiness or any achievement is made out to be a relative value requiring others to be less than you, rather than an intrinsic absolute value, aren't we choosing to create a perpetual lack, a forever futile zero sum rat race?

The narcissistic treatment Harry experiences from those he wants to make it work with reflects my own experience the one time I did let my own hands go of my course and exposed myself to fate. When it came time for action she did a 180 turn and treated me like a chewing gum she'd spit out and now found stuck on her shoe. I was dismissed and disregarded, despite my evident sincerity and the small intimacy and history we'd already shared. This was not a girl who you would see on the outside and think that she was obvious trouble, and I was a fool, either. The worst may or may not be that I actually expected it to go wrong. I had just not anticipated the precise magnitude of it - but for all my hurt, I could not feel too disappointed, because I had not been surprised. How many public social justice warriors have privately crushed sincere men with no remorse and toy with them for a hobby?

Yet sometimes Harry notes the presence of men who are seemingly not too much unlike himself, accompanied by women Harry may himself desire, who at least seem to desire that man. Is it a trick of Harry's perception, and he does not know it is merely their own episode with a giraffe? Is it a proof that Harry is a maladaptive organism, an error in the code? Or is it the system mocking him with its survivor bias to his face?

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  Christian Thibaudeau on volume and cortisol
Posted by: Nattybro87 - 11-04-2019, 11:41 AM - Forum: Training - Replies (2)

This seem legit? Basically he says high volume benefits enhanced lifters, but bad for natties. Low volume works best for naturals, because high volume can cause risk of cortisol. 


“Natural vs Enhanced Lifters”- https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/natural-...ed-lifters
“Best Damn Workout Plan for Naturals”- https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-be...al-lifters

Dr. Jade Teta’s article on cortisol control- “Two Faces of Cortisol”- https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/t...f-cortisol

All of this on cortisol is super confusing.

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  A Desert In The Sky - New Fiction Book
Posted by: TruthSeeker - 11-01-2019, 05:00 AM - Forum: Announcements - Replies (3)

Hello, the book A Desert In the Sky is now complete.

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A Desert in the Sky is a fiction book starring Harry TheBicepsFlexKilla – a character present in many stories on the site.

Harry is a man trying to survive in a gynocentric world that seems to hate him no matter what. Women and society's coldness become the main source of his suffering.

Many of the love stories in the book are inspired by what happened to me over the years, especially this summer. Unfortunately, women left me dead inside.

However, I am not Harry. Harry is a collection of many personages, and I just happen to be one of them. Some of the events in the book have never taken place.

If you like A Hater's Synthesis, you will probably like this book. Both present similar ideas but in two different formats. A Hater's Synthesis 1 and 2 are philosophical books whereas A Desert In the Sky is realistic fiction.

This is the most emotional book I have written so far.

I dedicate it to all the hearts that find themselves in it.

Thank you for your support and patience.

Click here to read an excerpt and purchase the book.

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  Scott Herman tried to explain how made some fast gains
Posted by: Nattybro87 - 10-31-2019, 01:48 PM - Forum: Natty Or Not - Replies (1)


I can’t help but feel like he finally gave in and took some type of dbol. He explained how he gained trap muscles just from working out hard. 

His muscles looked really full and almost unrealistic. If he’s truly natural, then his physique looked absolutely incredible. I dunno. Might still be attainable?

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  incel word ?
Posted by: Plato - 10-29-2019, 01:48 PM - Forum: OffTopic - No Replies

no wonder women use it



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