Is it safe to say that no women will ever love you the way you want to be loved? If so what's the solution? Just accept it and move on? The same acceptance that I'll never get the body if I stay natty forever?

Hey all,

I'm interested in improving on the following lifts: deadlift (~400lb 1rm), weighted pullup (bw+90lb 1rm), weighted dip (bw+~105lb 4rm), bench press, overhead press. Do you think it's a better idea to try to train all of them simultaneously or to pick 2-3 to progress on then swap them out for different ones? I'm a big fan of high-frequency programs like the ones from Pavel but for the last few years have been doing more bodybuilding style training.

Thanks.

I realize after lifting 85%+ of my 1RM deadlift most of the time for the last few years that I was beating up my body and hindering and preventing progress. Luckily no injuries. I realize now this was a stupid approach. I am working now on a new training program that will have me lifting lighter weights (~70% 1RM) mostly with wave cycling so that I will only go for the heavy weights about once every 3-4 months. It will also incorporate deloads and with the wave cycles.

The question is do you think deloads are necessary for the easier upper body lifts: bench press/weighted pull-ups/dips/overhead press? By deload I mean like a full week at a really easy weight (60% or so) or even a week off. I don't feel that those stress my CNS nearly as much as deadlifts but still my inclination is to incorporate de-loading anyway.

Is a double bodyweight squat a realistic 1RM target for a natural? I've seen this benchmark mentioned several times as a way to maximise standing jump, but it seems fairly ambitious to me. My PR is around 1.65BW for 5 reps, although I haven't maxed out on squats in a long time.

70 y/o with 55 years of bodybuilding experience

Stage form:


Spontaneous, ''out of shape'':


With The Governator:

Watched the movie couple of days ago
Sarah Butler looked pretty fit for the movie and good example of how natural woman who workout should look

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Does anyone here do Yoga?

This is amusing...

Case no. 1: A friend of my friend is in his 50s and is using drugs. My friend is not that experienced, but even to him the guy looks suspicious. So he asked him, after all they are friends. "No, I am not using anything." My friend showed me the picture and of course it wasn't even debatable. And then he wondered why his friend was lying to him. I mean, it was really funny to me, they are friends, but he still did it.

Case no. 2: A guy who is a bodybuilding competitor said, I am paraphrasing "I know a guy who is a lifetime natural, he only did two cycles...". And I was like how the fuck are lifetime natural and two cycles even in the same sentence... But apparently after two cycles you are still natural.

Case no. 3: Another bodybuilding competitor said in the comments on his instagram, I am paraphrasing again "Right now I am on nothing, so I have to train differently..." and a few sentences later "But as I said I am on 250 mg only". I am not joking, it was in the same comment. But no, he didn't make a slip, in his own mind he really thinks that 250 mg is nothing. So he is on nothing. And while you are cruising, well, you are basically natural.

Did anyone know that Stuart McRobert has a 'Hardgainer' website, and is still writing books.
https://www.hardgainer.com
Anyway, on his site I found this

Q. You teach training methods that don't need drugs to make them work. Are you sure the guys whose photos you feature aren't drug-assisted?

The only way to be sure there are no photographs of drug-enhanced men on this website is not to have any photographs of men published here other than those that were taken over 70 years ago. But that would be extreme response to the rampant use of drugs in the worlds of bodybuilding and strength training today. 

The most obvious examples of drug-fed physiques are the muscle monsters that abound in the mainstream bodybuilding press. But at the “moderate” levels of muscle development shown on this website, it’s not possible to identify with certainty whether or not the men have used performance enhancing drugs (PEDs).

Even lesser levels of muscle development don’t necessarily guarantee drug-free status. The use of bodybuilding drugs is so common today that there are some men on them who don’t have physiques in line with that assistance because they don’t train well enough.

Sourcing suitable photographs to illustrate this website is tricky. Dishonesty abounds among users of PEDs. Consider the high-profile users of PEDs in cycling, athletics and other sports who were adament they were drug-free until they were eventually exposed. Many “drug-free” or “natural” bodybuilders use PEDs. 

Some men and women who are drug-free have exceptional physiques because they have good genetics for bodybuilding and they trained and recuperated well for many years.  

So, I can’t be sure that all the men in the photographs illustrating this website are drug-free. But what’s most important is that the instruction promoted on this website doesn’t need drug assistance to make it work, or exceptional genetics for bodybuilding. 

How well the instruction works, though, depends on how well it’s applied and for how long, the genetic potential of the individual for bodybuilding, and the individual’s age, current level of development, and health. 

From the reviews

BY the 1960s, the period that another magazine termed “the Dianabol Decade,” it was possible for guys with the potential of Hercules to gain on routines nobody else could, now that they were on anabolic steroids—and ghost writers wrote up these routines and presented them as models for the rest of us. What it did, of course, was create a market for food supplements. From the 1960s to now, most bodybuilding magazines evolved into glorified supplement catalogues, selling pills that the bodybuilding stars didn’t even take. (They had what they needed in the needle they got stuck with.)

In your opinion, what are the benefits of exercise for natty ladies, apart from substitute for physical activity in motionless life.
TrueSeeker mentioned that their bodies did not change in a long run. However, gyms are full of girls.