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Do you use supplements?
#1
I don't because they are pretty much useless for the money worth
Fish oil capsules were the only supplement that I ever used
It was always fun to watch stupid people in the gym who were throwing almost 100 euros monthly for whey, creatine, BCAA and other useless shit with almost zero results Smile
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#2
That depends on your goals. If you lift recreationally and only care about being healthy, while improving your body image and strength, to me supplements do not provide any benefit aside from maybe vit d3, fish oil, which again are vitamins that you can easily get through food.

Now if you are competing in something, supplements can be used to aid recovery and  increase your strength/muscle even for a little bit. When you are competing at something, and care about winning, even a 1-5% aid can make a huge difference between 1st place to 5th place. Even if what you take is a placebo, it can work in your favor during competition.

The problem is that most people do not know how to use supplements properly and have huge expectations. You see average gym bros who do not know how to lift taking creatine/preworkout, then come to the gym to do bullshit exercises like cable curls, half squats and a gazillion of drop sets and somehow expect supplements to do the work. No it does not work like that.

Supplements if used properly slightly augment the result you get. Nothing more. But if you do not give your body the proper signal to grow all you are paying for is an expensive piss
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#3
It's also interesting how brainwashed people fanatically defend useless supplements, literary - like their life depend on it
I remember some FB conversation when I spend HOURS arguing about effectiveness of supplements, learned the hard way that it's pointless to explain anything to stupid and potentially mentally challenged people
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#4
just this great multi vitamin i pick up quite cheap....has everything in it and more. Is it essential no. But it gives me the vitamns i may miss due to diet. Things like Vit K, D, etc.

That's it.....not wasting money on anything else.
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#5
I drink like 2 beers right before I go run my three miles every other day. Works wonders. You can’t even feel your legs burning as bad and don’t care that you are breathing hard. Pretty legit. Doesn’t work as good on squat days.
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#6
I use Creatine and Calcium Citrate for everyday supplements. Someday I will take Vitamin D as well if I am not going outdoor much.
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#7
does creatine actually do anything? I mean seriously? No bro science crap.
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#8
(11-28-2018, 12:08 PM)jimjohnson Wrote: does creatine actually do anything? I mean seriously? No bro science crap.

Actually, you can google for some real scientific studies - they show strength increase UP to 10% in BEST case - and probably not of creatine itself but because of water retention and placebo
All this is laughable for the money worth - this mean that you can increase your reps in gym by one or two per set, which certainly not make you much more stronger or muscular for that matter, sadly
And you will look like bloated shit plus there is also a risk to kidney damage for some people - ofc supplement sellers and advocates will never tell you all this interesting stuff Smile
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(11-28-2018, 02:17 PM)Navigator Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 12:08 PM)jimjohnson Wrote: does creatine actually do anything? I mean seriously? No bro science crap.

Actually, you can google for some real scientific studies - they show strength increase UP to 10% in BEST case - and probably not of creatine itself but because of water retention and placebo
All this is laughable for the money worth - this mean that you can increase your reps in gym by one or two per set, which certainly not make you much more stronger or muscular for that matter, sadly
And you will look like bloated shit plus there is also a risk to kidney damage for some people - ofc supplement sellers and advocates will never tell you all this interesting stuff Smile

Yeah..i don't see how it could work nor is it worth it.

It's like these so called fat burners on the market. How can they actually work? They cannot override surplus calories....so you still have to go into a calorie deficit. Which is cutting. Not to mention the dangers of what they do.   

I guess most people want to have wool pulled over their eyes. "Oh look i can eat 15 piza's a week and drink 50 beers, pop this pill and look like a lean fitness model."  Angry
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#10
(11-28-2018, 02:17 PM)Navigator Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 12:08 PM)jimjohnson Wrote: does creatine actually do anything? I mean seriously? No bro science crap.

Actually, you can google for some real scientific studies - they show strength increase UP to 10% in BEST case - and probably not of creatine itself but because of water retention and placebo
All this is laughable for the money worth - this mean that you can increase your reps in gym by one or two per set, which certainly not make you much more stronger or muscular for that matter, sadly
And you will look like bloated shit plus there is also a risk to kidney damage for some people - ofc supplement sellers and advocates will never tell you all this interesting stuff Smile

If you compete in a sport, every little bit helps. Even 1-2 extra reps, done over 2 months can eventually make you a little bit stronger compared to someone who does not take creatine. There are numerous studies on creatine done by independant researchers who have found ergogenic benefits to creatine consumption. Does it make a huge difference? Well if someone is a gymrat, he obviously will not benefit from creatine, because he has nothing to compete for. All he will get is some extra recovery from workouts, and a little bit of size gain due to water retention which could "IN THEORY" provide some extra muscle gain.

Nothing more, nothing less. Its not magic. Its just an ergogenic aid, like caffeine in your coffee.

And btw, i am not biased towards supplements. I consider them a waste of money for MOST people, and i consider their marketing absurd (like promising steroid like results) but facts are facts. We can argue all day if X supplement works or not, or we can just search ourselves to find the answer we are looking for Angel 

Years ago, internet was flooded with sites who pushed supplements right at your face, and claimed fake benefits in order to attract customers. Nowadays there are a lot of sites that provide free, independant to supplement companies, scientific research to supplements. You can do your research there, and find the answer you are looking for.
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