04-03-2020, 05:11 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-03-2020, 05:12 AM by TruthSeeker.)
(04-02-2020, 11:05 PM)Templar Wrote: I knew about that ad for a long time, but I couldn't find it again. Now I finally did. And I wish I had your article some time ago when I was arguing with some morons over Marvin Eder. I say morons because you have to be a moron to believe that a guy who is under 90 kg can bench press over 230 kg, squat 250 kg for reps, deadlift over 300 kg and press like 150-160 kg without drugs. His numbers are insane even today. How many 90 kg guys have these numbers? And he was natural just because it was before dianabol. Delusional people... Yes, he was genetically gifted and that's why most lifters don't have his numbers although they are on drugs too. But to say that he was natural, I mean, people act like having good genetics means that you are somehow a gorilla and not a human anymore. It's ridiculous. On top of that I think he had one of the first WOW before-and-after transformations. And also people look at those early bodybuilders like they are some natty heroes when in reality they were more than ready to take drugs. John Grimek, although he didn't compete anymore, was willing to test steroids for Ziegler.
"Reg Park was giving Arnold a run for his money but was natural."
- Dreamer
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