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Why Natural Bodybuilders Don’t Get Big and Hate Talking About the Natty Limits
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Why Natural Bodybuilders Don’t Get Big and Hate Talking About the Natty Limits 

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Men who are considered muscularly gifted have an abnormal health condition. Modern human men evolved to run long distances after game and killing food with a spear. Muscles which are too large would be a hindrance to survival. Myostatin is a protein in our muscles that limits muscle growth. Men we consider genetically gifted are producing less myostatin. Neanderthals were much stronger than us "modern" humans, but they were not built for distance running.
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(12-16-2019, 09:42 PM)Grinch Wrote: Men who are considered muscularly gifted have an abnormal health condition. Modern human men evolved  to run long distances after game and killing food with a spear.  Muscles which are too large would be a hindrance to survival. Myostatin is a protein in  our muscles  that limits muscle growth. Men we consider genetically gifted are producing less myostatin. Neanderthals were much stronger than us "modern" humans, but they were not built for distance running.

Evolution is just a theory.

The Goths were some of the best hunters the world has ever known and they were recorded as being tall and muscular.

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Brett, do a web search on myostatin, it is interesting reading. One man does not get larger muscles than another, if his testosterone is in the physiological normal range. In the US, that would be 250-900. They can have different levels of myostatin though.
I don't agree with the entire theory of evolution, but some parts of it are correct. The Goths you refer to were "modern" humans, like you, that originally migrated out of Africa. These were throwing spear hunters. Neanderthals were vastly stronger, but were only stabbing spear hunters. Genetically, most of us are about 3% Neanderthal. The strongest of us may have some good Neanderthal genetics, including a strong brow ridge.
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(12-17-2019, 05:11 PM)Grinch Wrote: Brett, do a web search on myostatin, it is interesting reading. One man does not get larger muscles than another, if his testosterone is in the physiological normal range. In the US, that would be 250-900. They can have different levels of myostatin though.
I don't agree with the entire theory of evolution, but some parts of it are correct. The Goths you refer to were "modern" humans, like you, that originally  migrated out of Africa. These were throwing spear hunters. Neanderthals were vastly stronger, but were only stabbing spear hunters. Genetically, most of us are about 3% Neanderthal.  The strongest of us may have some good Neanderthal genetics, including a strong brow ridge.

Sources?

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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvqvpp/this-is-how-much-testosterone-actually-affects-muscle-growth
"trying to raise your testosterone levels naturally is unlikely to have much of an impact on the speed at which you gain muscle"

https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-hardgainer-prescription
Some description of myostatin

https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/surprising-facts-about-neanderthals
Some discussion of Neanderthals
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(12-18-2019, 11:39 AM)Grinch Wrote: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvqvpp/this-is-how-much-testosterone-actually-affects-muscle-growth
"trying to raise your testosterone levels naturally is unlikely to have much of an impact on the speed at which you gain muscle"

https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-hardgainer-prescription
Some description of myostatin

https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/surprising-facts-about-neanderthals
Some discussion of Neanderthals

Sorry I did not want any sources for the myostatin or test I was referring to only the sources on neanderthals.

The problem with sourcing a article written with the basic premise of the article that evolution is a fact rather than a theory is that what follows in the artice is all based on a theory with little evidence actually supporting it.

Its no coincidence that the most popular religion among scientists and academics today is that of no religion (atheist). Is that not strange to you? Why is it that atheists are so prominent in academics in western tertiary education?

What if I told you that there is far more evidence that Jesus existed than 'ape men'. Would you be open to seeing this evidence?

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(12-16-2019, 09:42 PM)Grinch Wrote: Men who are considered muscularly gifted have an abnormal health condition. Modern human men evolved  to run long distances after game and killing food with a spear.  Muscles which are too large would be a hindrance to survival. Myostatin is a protein in  our muscles  that limits muscle growth. Men we consider genetically gifted are producing less myostatin. Neanderthals were much stronger than us "modern" humans, but they were not built for distance running.

Yes, humans compared to other primates are clearly better tailored towards endurance. A chimp although lighter is much stronger than a human. Humans however are unique in the ability of sweating which allows us to avoid overheating during prolongued physical activity.

Humans also have shorter arms and longer legs than other primates, what besides being more fit for running, makes humans the superior species at throwing despite their inferior strength.
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The Sudarium of Oviedo proves to me that the Shroud of Turin was the burial cloth of Jesus. However, I accept the fact that primates evolved differently over a long period of time. The link on Neanderthals I provided discusses how all non sub-Saharan humans are part Neanderthal. This link discusses the throwing spear technology developed by modern humans:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3085-neanderthals-strong-arm-tactics-revealed/


Mass_Bixo,
Back in the late 19th century in the western US, promoters would sponsor boxing matches between men and chimps. Pity the poor rube from the audience who agreed to fight a chimp. Male chimps had to be retired by the age of three, they became much tougher fighters as they matured. Adult male chimps fight by ripping off a man's genitals, and/or biting off his face.
I agree, humans are built for endurance, and for throwing.
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