MGTOW is actually MSTOW

[RedPillOverdose]

Who agrees?

[Brett]

Who agrees?

So Men Shown their own way?

I agree that mgtow is mostly a community of men who weren't getting (dating or otherwise) women before they joined the movement.

[Simple Simon]

Men Staying in Their Own Way

[RedPillOverdose]

Men Sent Their Own Way

[Rickley]

I'm sharing my thoughts on MGTOW. I've discovered MGTOW back in 2014. I think Luimarco, Sandman, Spetsnaz and Truth Over Everything (all youtubers) introduced me to it. I suggest listening to the audios of the last two if you have time. They have already deleted their channels but their advice is really gold. Back then MGTOW was actually an inspirational group and it is mostly about self development because the philosophy is instead of focusing your attention to women, MGTOW focuses on yourself and becoming the best man you can be. They idolize men like Nikola Tesla and Da Vinci who are lifelong bachelors and have achieved great things.

Now moving on now all I can say that even if in some way I identify as MGTOW and is red pilled I don't want to be included with other MGTOWs because it has been infiltratesld by incels who go MGTOW because they can't get the woman they want.

In my opinion the best way to identify an incel from a MGTOW is to ask them a question, "Will you choose to be with a women, if you are given right now the woman of your dreams, or not? If the answer is yes, you are an incel and if not, you are likely to be a real MGTOW.

[Simple Simon]

Men Sent Their Own Way?

Yes, on women's outlets I have heard the MGTOW movement pejoratively described as such.

[Brett]

I'm sharing my thoughts on MGTOW. I've discovered MGTOW back in 2014. I think Luimarco, Sandman, Spetsnaz and Truth Over Everything (all youtubers) introduced me to it. I suggest listening to the audios of the last two if you have time. They have already deleted their channels but their advice is really gold. Back then MGTOW was actually an inspirational group and it is mostly about self development because the philosophy is instead of focusing your attention to women, MGTOW focuses on yourself and becoming the best man you can be. They idolize men like Nikola Tesla and Da Vinci who are lifelong bachelors and have achieved great things.

Now moving on now all I can say that even if in some way I identify as MGTOW and is red pilled I don't want to be included with other MGTOWs because it has been infiltratesld by incels who go MGTOW because they can't get the woman they want.

In my opinion the best way to identify an incel from a MGTOW is to ask them a question, "Will you choose to be with a women, if you are given right now the woman of your dreams, or not? If the answer is yes, you are an incel and if not, you are likely to be a real MGTOW.

Da Vinci was a homosexual and occultist.

Its kind of a trick question because if you have 'a woman of your dreams' it already shows you have the wrong scarcity mindset.

[Plato]

I dont support the MGTOW ideology it what the elite wants . I get why people do it and understand but its TOXIC just like feminist movement . love is hard to find but I have experience it. It take's two people for it to work.

[TruthSeeker]

Even if they are "shown their way", it doesn't change the fact that most are hurt souls who just wanted to love someone. Nothing wrong with that.

I can see exactly how the system benefits from MGTOW's fame, as I've written before, but at the same time – it's becoming harder to ignore the effect of female-induced abuse on my own soul.

The dynamics that we are witnessing today will never revert to normal unless there's a cataclysm. Women will not wake up one day, delete social media and join a church. They will continue to abuse the power given to them by the system until there's a "reset".

As I've written in A Hater's Synthesis 2, the biggest downside of MGTOW is that it focuses on women rather than on the system which is the actual source of female brainwashing/readjustment.

The blueprint works as follows:

1. Ultimately, women choose who will breed and who won't.
2. The system changes/adjusts women to a desired frequency so that females demand a certain "breed" of men.
3. Men change for women. i.e., become neurotypical economic soldiers living by the rules.
4. The system profits by molding men into obedient slaves and eliminating those who don't fit the criteria.
5. Children also change under female influence because the system often gives custody to the mother – she is the primary source of the new doctrine.

Men raised by single mothers are doomed. They lack inherent confidence that only a man can give to his son.

Single mothers are often feminists/man-haters hurt by the typical "jerk". They project their insecurities onto their children. Hence why boys brought up by single mothers are often nice guys who get wrecked by women all the time cause their moms told them to worship estrogen.

Fatherless girls are also in a bad situation. They are weaker than normal, lack self-love and have unrealistic expectations of men.

[Brett]

Even if they are "shown their way", it doesn't change the fact that most are hurt souls who just wanted to love someone. Nothing wrong with that.

I can see exactly how the system benefits from MGTOW's fame, as I've written before, but at the same time – it's becoming harder to ignore the effect of female-induced abuse on my own soul.

The dynamics that we are witnessing today will never revert to normal unless there's a cataclysm. Women will not wake up one day, delete social media and join a church. They will continue to abuse the power given to them by the system until there's a "reset".

As I've written in A Hater's Synthesis 2, the biggest downside of MGTOW is that it focuses on women rather than on the system which is the actual source of female brainwashing/readjustment.

The blueprint works as follows:

1. Ultimately, women choose who will breed and who won't.
2. The system changes/adjusts women to a desired frequency so that females demand a certain "breed" of men.
3. Men change for women. i.e., become neurotypical economic soldiers living by the rules.
4. The system profits by molding men into obedient slaves and eliminating those who don't fit the criteria.
5. Children also change under female influence because the system often gives custody to the mother – she is the primary source of the new doctrine.

Men raised by single mothers are doomed. They lack inherent confidence that only a man can give to his son.

Single mothers are often feminists/man-haters hurt by the typical "jerk". They project their insecurities onto their children. Hence why boys brought up by single mothers are often nice guys who get wrecked by women all the time cause their moms told them to worship estrogen.

Fatherless girls are also in a bad situation. They are weaker than normal, lack self-love and have unrealistic expectations of men.

Women in the church are addicted to their 'smart' phones just as much as the women who don't go to church. In fact lots of them sit in church on their phones during the service.