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Questions around OLD and real life
#1
This is a thread I made on another forum, I'll post it here too

So this study showed that the best gender ratio for men on OLD is in America, where "only" 73% of profiles are male. By contrast in France 81% of profiles are male, in Britain it's 85%, Spain 87% and Italy 91% (I think this is also before accounting for fake profiles but I haven't checked if they did that or not, just saw the graph in a youtube video and the study link).

This makes me ask some questions:

1 - Assuming women are meeting men irl, how are they meeting men?
2 - If women are meeting men irl, why are such comparably vast numbers of men online but only a tiny number of women? are women meeting only a small minority of men irl?
-- Or are women actually not meeting men anywhere, but they are more content to live in celibacy rather than use OLD while men are willing to use OLD?
--- Or is it that men and women are both meeting in reality, but women delete their apps while meeting someone while men stay on the apps while meeting someone?

What do you guys think?
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#2
1. Social circle, school, getting cold approached (very rare), mom and dad find someone for their princess.

Here's the culprit that you are looking for, which also explains why men are the dominating gender on dating apps.

++Women have social media which basically act as dating apps. It is the same thing, it's just not official.++

Dating apps and sites may be flooded with men, but social media is ENTIRELY (I very rarely use caps) a female territory.

I would go as far as saying that every female profile is a digital alter that men worship. Every like and comment is a form of worship.

Why would women make dating apps when men are flooding them with messages on Insta, FB and whatever the kids are using these days? They don't have to. They already get the benefits of online dating from social media or as you put it - antisocial media.

Men do NOT get the same benefit and have to explore other venues. The online dating industry is almost entirely supported by men.

In short, if she's on social media, she's done some form of online dating.

More couples have formed from Facebook then form dating apps, partially because more people use the former.
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#3
Ah yes, I had not accounted for antisocial media. You are on point with that, they are effectively dating apps. But even so it does not explain who these women are actually having sex with, if so many more men are online acting in desperation - if men were getting it on through antisocial media, they would have no need to go onto formal OLD. Either the stats are flawed, which they may be, or many more men than women are more or less sexless, or women are content to live in celibacy but men are not. Something has to give. Either way the mainstream has a ready narrative for it: either that women only want relationships unlike piggish men, or that men are oppressing them from the sex they would want to have if only men would let them. Just like they are oppressed out of wearing revealing clothes and cosmetics in islamic countries, and likewise when they do wear them in the west it is because of mens' oppressive sexism.

My maternal grandparents met on a public transport boat. They started talking, and recognized each other from their neighborhood. Could they imagine that their and their peers' grandchildren would discuss the techniques of fine-tuning your instagram game in 70 years after going to the gym didn't work? Discussing how to "stand out" from the other 300 men who are likewise trying to outsmart the house and don't have enough looks or status for women to contact themselves unlike say, the international athlete a girl I was with contacted and got wined and dined and fucked by or the TV celebrity another one fucked.

PS. I do think "antisocial media" is a funny name, but proper too since it's based on the truth: it is recorded to lower users' selfesteem, correlate (it's unclear exactly how) with narcissism, and coincides with us reporting more and more loneliness than ever before. I only keep my facebook because I keep in touch with a few people on there and it's a convenient place to store pictures from different times and candid experiences (unlike what thirst traps and showoffs of conspicuous consumption/leisure are). Who knows, maybe I will simply start using facebook as a dating app in the future. What's there to lose when you don't care about their judgement anymore? At least it has a better gender ratio.
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#4
when I Cold approach women all ways say wow wish more men did this .
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#5
(09-20-2019, 06:38 AM)Plato Wrote: when I Cold approach  women all ways say wow wish more men did this .

So that they can get even more validation....as if the online dopamine isn't enough.

(09-20-2019, 01:51 AM)Loverboy Wrote: Ah yes, I had not accounted for antisocial media. You are on point with that, they are effectively dating apps. But even so it does not explain who these women are actually having sex with, if so many more men are online acting in desperation - if men were getting it on through antisocial media, they would have no need to go onto formal OLD. Either the stats are flawed, which they may be, or many more men than women are more or less sexless, or women are content to live in celibacy but men are not. Something has to give. Either way the mainstream has a ready narrative for it: either that women only want relationships unlike piggish men, or that men are oppressing them from the sex they would want to have if only men would let them. Just like they are oppressed out of wearing revealing clothes and cosmetics in islamic countries, and likewise when they do wear them in the west it is because of mens' oppressive sexism.

My maternal grandparents met on a public transport boat. They started talking, and recognized each other from their neighborhood. Could they imagine that their and their peers' grandchildren would discuss the techniques of fine-tuning your instagram game in 70 years after going to the gym didn't work? Discussing how to "stand out" from the other 300 men who are likewise trying to outsmart the house and don't have enough looks or status for women to contact themselves unlike say, the international athlete a girl I was with contacted and got wined and dined and fucked by or the TV celebrity another one fucked.

PS. I do think "antisocial media" is a funny name, but proper too since it's based on the truth: it is recorded to lower users' selfesteem, correlate (it's unclear exactly how) with narcissism, and coincides with us reporting more and more loneliness than ever before. I only keep my facebook because I keep in touch with a few people on there and it's a convenient place to store pictures from different times and candid experiences (unlike what thirst traps and showoffs of conspicuous consumption/leisure are). Who knows, maybe I will simply start using facebook as a dating app in the future. What's there to lose when you don't care about their judgement anymore? At least it has a better gender ratio.

Modern dating is the cancer that this generation has to fight. 

It used to be a lot easier back in the day. There wasn't as much competition.

Social media, smartphones and feminism - collectively killed women and turned them into sad, lonely creatures. 

Women are not happy regardless of what they say.
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#6
(09-20-2019, 06:38 AM)Plato Wrote: when I Cold approach  women all ways say wow wish more men did this .

I dont give them validation nor do I compliment them when first did it I would because I compliment  when am nervous  .  I just ask them out your ask if there single . I think there probable just want more guys to do this anyway rather than online if all guys did it then online reality would die .

you could say its still validation but what should I do its not like I use online anymore ? so at least I know were I stand, I would never tell people to use both. its one your the other .
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#7
The approach itself is validation even if you ask for directions.

I have approached an unknown number of women. The only thing it did for me was destroy me emotionally and ravage my soul forever.
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#8
(09-20-2019, 12:26 PM)TruthSeeker Wrote: The approach itself is validation even if you ask for directions.

I have approached an unknown number of women. The only thing it did for me was destroy me emotionally and ravage my soul forever.

It seem to help me and boots my confidence I got sex from it and dates . All am saying is am sure that what people did in the old days of dating.  Another way people dates in those days was it was tighter community and girls would ask you out in there social circle eg school and in the community.  But now that been taken away . All am saying we have no choice but cold approach its better then the online world.
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#9
(09-19-2019, 08:45 PM)Loverboy Wrote: This is a thread I made on another forum, I'll post it here too

So this study showed that the best gender ratio for men on OLD is in America, where "only" 73% of profiles are male. By contrast in France 81% of profiles are male, in Britain it's 85%, Spain 87% and Italy 91% (I think this is also before accounting for fake profiles but I haven't checked if they did that or not, just saw the graph in a youtube video and the study link).

This makes me ask some questions:

1 - Assuming women are meeting men irl, how are they meeting men?
2 - If women are meeting men irl, why are such comparably vast numbers of men online but only a tiny number of women? are women meeting only a small minority of men irl?
-- Or are women actually not meeting men anywhere, but they are more content to live in celibacy rather than use OLD while men are willing to use OLD?
--- Or is it that men and women are both meeting in reality, but women delete their apps while meeting someone while men stay on the apps while meeting someone?

What do you guys think?


I'll try my best here.
Firstly women who are higher up on the scale rarely use dating apps because they already have an abundance of men giving them attention on the antisocial media that you said not to mention they have suitors in real life as well in work, gym and even during parties. Some even get approached usually especially due to the rise of PUAs teaching that you need to practice.

Then as well we all know that theres a statis mtic that 20% of men get 80 % of women or something like that. Then the 80% of men flock all ovrr social media and dating sites.

Lastly, men just want to fuck not to mentioned programmed as such. Its so easy to createan online profile and these men all think they can get easy lays there.
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#10
(10-06-2019, 11:06 PM)Rickley Wrote: I'll try my best here.
Firstly women who are higher up on the scale rarely use dating apps because they already have an abundance of men giving them attention on the antisocial media that you said not to mention they have suitors in real life as well in work, gym and even during parties. Some even get approached usually especially due to the rise of PUAs teaching that you need to practice.

Then as well we all know that theres a statis mtic that 20% of men get 80 % of women or something like that. Then the 80% of men flock all ovrr social media and dating sites.

Lastly, men just want to fuck not to mentioned programmed as such. Its so easy to createan online profile and these men all think they can get easy lays there.

Men don't just want to fuck. We want a relationship and companionship.

In my experience alot of women just want to fuck even though they say want a relationship.

I used to think I just wanted to fuck but now I want more. The more doesn't have to be marriage but I do want someone to talk to and laugh with.

Its situational though aswell. Woman change like a commelian around different men they with. Alot depends on the man and his leadership, attractiveness, status, etc.

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