Vicsnatural fake natty?

[Nattybro87]

https://m.youtube.com/user/vicsnatural

This dude has a really freaky biceps peak. 

Either he has top tier natty genes, or he’s just shadow pinning.

[khrazz]

https://m.youtube.com/user/vicsnatural

This dude has a really freaky biceps peak. 

Either he has top tier natty genes, or he’s just shadow pinning.

too much chiseled/dry look, too much transformation between his videos and videos (which means he cycles on and off with different set of compounds) so i would say he is not natty.

Btw, if you have to ask if someone is natural, 95% chance he is not. period. If he was truly natural you would not bother asking

[Nattybro87]

too much chiseled/dry look, too much transformation between his videos and videos (which means he cycles on and off with different set of compounds) so i would say he is not natty.

Btw, if you have to ask if someone is natural, 95% chance he is not. period. If he was truly natural you would not bother asking

Thanks for responding, khrazz. 

I still can’t help but be bluepilled and be inspired by some Classic or Men’s Physique look. They’re not too freaky like Jay Cutler, but look more proportionate like Arnold era. It’s sad that even that physique is not attainable. 

Still, if we look at guys like Nick Miller (Nick’s Strength and Power), his physique looks natty achievable with impressive biceps to boot.

[small_natural]

Hard to decide for me if he's natural or not. I believe his physique shown in recent videos (2012+) is attainable naturally, for small percentage of guys (very good genetics, many years of dedicated lifting, etc. etc.). He does not have that unreal amount of muscles - I would say that a large part of his presence comes from his broad shoulders, over-developed pecs and good conditioning. His conditioning also doesn't look that dry to me. However, I stumbled upon a video from 2009 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eovBJK7UAxk) and even though the video has shit quality, it seems to me he's bigger in it and with better conditioning, so based on this video, I'm leaning towards the conclusion that he isn't lifetime natural.

[khrazz]

Thanks for responding, khrazz. 

I still can’t help but be bluepilled and be inspired by some Classic or Men’s Physique look. They’re not too freaky like Jay Cutler, but look more proportionate like Arnold era. It’s sad that even that physique is not attainable. 

Still, if we look at guys like Nick Miller (Nick’s Strength and Power), his physique looks natty achievable with impressive biceps to boot.

its not that its not attainable. It is if you have favorable genetics and are close or at the same height he is you absolutely can,  however you wont come really close at achieving the definition he has , or how people call it "the look" (dryness, with deep cuts etc) . A natural can 100% achieve a dry , with deep cuts look, but that will come at the price of mass. In order to have both mass and dryness you will have to work your ass off with flawless nutrition  ,which will require a visit to a profesional nutritionist that specializes in athletic dieting, combined with vigorous training. You absolutely cant and wont get proper advice from internet forums on what YOU can achieve. On the internet everyone is a specialist, and everyone knows what he is talking about (yes even me   sarcasm off) .

In my opinion his physique is possible to achieve, granted you work your ass off, and are at the same height he is - as far as mass goes . As for his definition, well i am not really sure you can pull it off at the level he has. I would mark is as plausible to unlikely possible. He is not a heavy drug user (probably uses trt) so you could "technically" say he is natural, because trt does not give a lot of muscle mass to begin with (it gives at most 10lbs)