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Lee Hayward natty?
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Lee Hayward posing onstage in 2010: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dAipAp3JGJc

His website: https://leehayward.com/blog/

Or is he just another fake natty who would scam people for money like Skip La Cour and Jeff Willet/AST did? If I remember correctly, there was one video of him I saw about two years ago that he somehow grew an inch from doing occlusion biceps workouts.
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My opinion is that his body from the 2010 video can be achieved naturally. I think he's probably natural there. He doesn't have very much muscle on him and his conditioning isn't top notch  Also, he has already been training for 20 years in 2010... I think that if he was a juicer, he would look way better (not that he looks bad!), but hey, you never know. Anyway, the thing with occlusion workout is probably a bullshit he says to keep attention of his youtube subscribers... nothing unusual
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#3
There's a post on him on the site:

http://nattyornot.com/lee-hayward-natural-steroids/
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I totally missed TruthSeeker's article about him. I read it and was shocked that the guy is 171cm / 88.6kg in contest condition, he totally doesn't look like that to me from the competition video! However I found a video which is not from the stage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRvXHwAuxQ) and he looks way bigger in it. In the light of this observation, I change my opinion totally to "probably juiced"  Smile
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(06-12-2019, 11:05 PM)TruthSeeker Wrote: There's a post on him on the site:

http://nattyornot.com/lee-hayward-natural-steroids/

Damn. I can’t believe he was 195 lbs shredded. How the hell could he have been as heavy as Sammir Bannout, yet doesn’t look as muscular as him? 

Also, Hayward had some serious roadmap like veins all over his chest.

Love your book, by the way.

(06-13-2019, 08:32 AM)small_natural Wrote: I totally missed TruthSeeker's article about him. I read it and was shocked that the guy is 171cm / 88.6kg in contest condition, he totally doesn't look like that to me from the competition video! However I found a video which is not from the stage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRvXHwAuxQ) and he looks way bigger in it. In the light of this observation, I change my opinion totally to "probably juiced"  Smile


He looks pretty natural if we only look at his arms. However, something looked off with his stomach. When he turned to perform side pose, it looked like he was having trouble holding in his distended gut. Lol

Yeah. It’s hard to know if he was pinning because he didn’t look as impressive. We have to remind ourselves that just because he’s been working out for 20 years and still doesn’t look that impressive doesn’t mean he’s natural!
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