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Recommended daily calories
#11
I cut on: 1500-1600
maintenance: 2000-2100
bulk 2400-2500
I don't move a lot except going to the gym and sometimes walking around with friends.
177 cm, 78 kg.

tried the youtube natties 3500 kcal bulk before 2-3 years, got fat as pig, cutted and in the end after 6 months i looked almost about the same. Due to these youtube natties calorie and protein consumption is highly exaggerated.
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#12
(02-05-2019, 12:37 AM)locutus24 Wrote: Well, think about obesity and how common it is. A 5'10 man who weights 210 lbs (no muscle) is now considered average today. When I walk down in the business district of NY I see lots of men like like. Guy in suit at 5'8-5'10 (taller guys seem to be a healthier weight) and a roundish mid section that even the tight suit can't hide. 

Basically, this means that to maintain these overweight amounts requires a higher average daily intake. So maybe the world's top nutritionists have taken a statistical average on the male weight (which is overweight) and than based the calorie intake equation on that. Or perhaps these numbers are based on strength athletes who used steroids, but steroids is forgiving when it comes to eating excess calories, whereas a natural it's not and just leads to more fat. But still they claim that this maintenance amount is same for both steroid and non-steroid users. Idk for certain these are just guesses.

Each person will have slightly different calorie needs, but for me personally, 6'1 185 lbs, I only need about 2200 calories to stay at same weight. I've been eating this amount for about 2 months. Scale says same thing each day. When building muscle I will go no higher than 2700.

Are you for real? I'm 5'5 and about 135 pounds and I eat 2300 calories per day and track it using My Fitness Pal. I pretty much stay the same weight for three years now. Are you not walking around etc?
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#13
(09-25-2019, 10:48 PM)Rickley Wrote: Are you for real? I'm 5'5 and about 135 pounds and I eat 2300 calories per day and track it using My Fitness Pal. I pretty much stay the same weight for three years now. Are you not walking around etc?
the app is not that accurate
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(09-26-2019, 01:19 AM)Plato Wrote: the app is not that accurate

So it spouts higher calories than expected? I weigh my food and searched it on google and My Fitness Pal roughly has exact calories per food.
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(03-06-2020, 02:24 PM)Rick ley Wrote: So it spouts higher calories than expected? I weigh my food and searched it on google and My Fitness Pal roughly has exact calories per food.
All these apps are as accurate as they can be. I think the problem is that some (most?) foods may have different composition depending on the source, e.g. the exact macros in grains depend on the soil they grew on. Also, how caloric a given food piece is is calculated by burning it and checking how much heat it produced. In real organisms acquiring energy from food is a little bit more complicated that that. That said calorie counting is accurate enough to be meaningful for a reasonable fat loss.
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#16
(03-06-2020, 02:24 PM)Rickley Wrote: So it spouts higher calories than expected? I weigh my food and searched it on google and My Fitness Pal roughly has exact calories per food.

yes. because foods is made tbh you never truly know.
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