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Fitness Industry Scams
#61
(01-21-2020, 04:37 PM)Brett Wrote: I do thigh curls because I don't like deadlifts. They tax the cns too much (in my case alot) so i don't do them. For that reason and because I do stone lifting and carrying three times a week I don't do romanians or straight deadlifts. 

With regards to everything else - I'm sure you have your reasons for thinking the way you do from personal expereince, I have my own.

Let me share a real life situation though with regards to my calf training (I stilll train calves through stone carries and even thigh curls but not directly anymore):

As I write this I am looking at the journal I keep. In 2016 my calves measured 38cm.

I wasn't really training them if I recall or if I was it was on and off. At that time I weighed 82 - 85kg.

In Jan 2019 I was training my calves 2 times a week direclty. I would do enough sets (10 a week) for growth with good intensity in that I would feel a great stretch, burn, pump and I was doing about 70kg eventually. 

After 6 months of this training I measured my calves and they were 35 - 36cm. At the time I measured them I weighed 79 - 80kg (so I had lost bf).

Maybe they lost size because I was carrying less weight on my frame. What i do know is they didn't grow in size (definition they did perhaps). 

So thats my personal experience. 

I decided to measure them now just to see what they are (have not measure them in about a year) and they measure 36 - 37 cm. So they have not lost size since I stopped training them directly.

TBH I dont mind considering my arms are only 40 cm (sometimes 39). So i'm in proportion.

With regards to compounds not being able to get you to 100% of a muscles genetic potential I would say find yourself a moderately heavy stone 30kg - 40kg. Grip it to waist level and hold it against your torso with your hands underneath (like a arm curl mid way). Walk around with the stone until your biceps feel like they going to tear off. In this compound movement the biceps are the weakest link and have no choice but too work hard. Try it and see. I have been doing this 3 times a week and only on one day I do 3 sets of barbell curls as a afterthought. My arms look pretty good at the moment (40 cm).

I feel your pain. I did up to 10 sets 4x per week without much (or any) visible diference.
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#62
(01-10-2020, 06:02 AM)Brett Wrote: Whoever wrote the above last paragraph is talking complete shit.

You can definitely reach your natty limit with compound movements alone.

In theory, maybe. In practice? Not likely. There are several problems with compound lifts. Muscle-mind connection often won't be optimal (ever know someone who has big delts, triceps and shitty chest?). Also, they're very taxing on the body. Decent muscle-mind connection is easier to achieve during isolation exercises, they're not nearly as taxing as compounds, and can provide growth stimulus as well. They're perfect complement to compounds, if someone is after maximum visual natty limit Smile
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#63
(01-21-2020, 04:37 PM)Brett Wrote: I do thigh curls because I don't like deadlifts. They tax the cns too much (in my case alot) so i don't do them. For that reason and because I do stone lifting and carrying three times a week I don't do romanians or straight deadlifts.
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With regards to compounds not being able to get you to 100% of a muscles genetic potential I would say find yourself a moderately heavy stone 30kg - 40kg. Grip it to waist level and hold it against your torso with your hands underneath (like a arm curl mid way). Walk around with the stone until your biceps feel like they going to tear off. In this compound movement the biceps are the weakest link and have no choice but too work hard. Try it and see. I have been doing this 3 times a week and only on one day I do 3 sets of barbell curls as a afterthought. My arms look pretty good at the moment (40 cm).
You actually making my point really. You seem to argue that compounds will get you to the natty limit, but for some reason you yourself don't rely on compounds only for whatever reasons (which I think are valid, mind you). Why do you argue then?

And sure, you can come up with a contrived exercise that hits desired muscle group, but why bother? I can take your arguments and spin them against you. If you want to hit biceps, isolation is safer and less taxing than carrying weird, heavy objects around.

(01-22-2020, 06:39 PM)twp Wrote: Every time I do weighted chin-ups my biceps is the limiting factor. And I guess I am not the only when.
With pull-ups my biceps and back tire at the same rate.
I dare to say you do something wrong. It's a similar thing to feeling shoulders more during bench press.

Also, if biceps is the limiting factor then your back doesn't receive optimal stimulus.

Also also, biceps are too weak to replace lats as a prime mover during chin-ups. Even if they are the limiting factor it's like doing curls with too heavy weight. Doing 3 reps of curls to failure is not optimal for hypertrophy.
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#64
Interesting thread Quora
What is the biggest hoax in the bodybuilding industry?
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#65
What are the most damaging fitness myths that are being perpetuated?

What is the biggest fitness myth you wish was exposed?

"Gosh, where does one even begin!?

The fitness industry as a whole is a scam, lol"
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#66
Following on from exercise to lose weight/bodyfat being a fitness industry scam...

Diet and supplements to add lean mass (muscle tissue) is a fitness industry scam.
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#67
The natural genetic limitations doesn't exist. You can build very small quantity of muscle mass for your whole life. Biggest bullshit I ever heard among the gym rats. Even a FUCKING PERSONAL TRAINER SAID THAT!

My first major 3 Red Pills in my life that disappointed me very bad:

1. Santa Claus and Easter Bunny are both mythological creatures
2. There is natural genetic limitations when it comes to build muscle mass and your maximum potential doesn't make you look like a Greek god Adonis, also your genetic plays the most important role in muscle development.
3. Women doesn't love you for your personality or because you are a good guy. They "love" you for what you can offer or do for them. Yes, women are natural parasites.

Also, there are a lots of other Red Pills, but those three were the most difficult to "digest".

Have a nice day, lads and take your daily dose of Red Pills
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#68
(11-24-2020, 02:27 AM)Simple Simon Wrote: exercise to lose weight/bodyfat a fitness industry scam

Interesting. Would like to know how they controlled for calories consumed, and then how much weight each individual lost.

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#69
Abdominal routines for visible abdominal muscles
ANY exercise machine that its purveyors claim will give you visible abdominal muscles.
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#70
I've been reading the below book ('Big Fat Lies' by David Gillespie), and it has a section on the lie of exercise for weight loss.

It claims that it was known for years that exercise did nothing for weightloss, goes through the origin of how the lie formed, and how it is now a health/fitness industry scam.



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(david gillespie big fat lies - Bing images)
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