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Fitness Industry Scams
#11
Put muscle on so you burn more calories in your rest period.

Anyone over 10% b.f. bulking (99% of gym rats)

No pain..no gain

You need to work out 10 hours+ week to get good results.  

Those idiots on PED's are healthy and look good.

If you eat certain foods or only a certain times you can lose fat.... It's all about calories.

Supplements can overcome a high calorie intake

90%+ shouldn't even bother

I find it a bit confusing about cardio.

Cardio can absolutely help in cutting fat....1 hour jogging burns about 900 cal's. Now all it is doing is putting you into a calorie deficit. Nothing complicated about it. If you still go over calorie you won't lose any fat. Just gives you a bit more leeway with food intake. The downside being time and wear and tear on your body. I do it short term. 1 week tops.

But it can 100% help you.

It is not necessary but can help and speed things up.
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#12
(11-10-2018, 09:39 AM)Simple Simon Wrote: I'll list mine. Feel free to question or add. 

- Consuming protein builds muscle.

Protein will only build muscle if there is a demand. Plus, protein requirements for this are grossly overstated. 

- Exercise to lose weight

The amount of energy utilized when exercising is so small that it can not have a significant effect on weight loss.

- Aerobic exercise of 20 min+ burns body fat.

Technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal.

- Exercise stimulates your metabolism causing your body to burn additional calories during the day.


Again, technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal

- Resistance training builds muscle so yo will burn additional calories. 

Again, technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal.

Basically they evolved from these fathers:

Serge Nubret: pump training with high volume and high frequency
Frank Zane: pump training with push, pull, legs split
Arnold: heavy lifting with high volume and high frequency
Mike Mentzer: low volume and low frequency and lifting heavy

Basically none of these methods work and all YouTube fake natties seem to resell some form of the above.
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#13
(11-13-2018, 03:48 PM)Brett Wrote:
(11-10-2018, 09:39 AM)Simple Simon Wrote: I'll list mine. Feel free to question or add. 

- Consuming protein builds muscle.

Protein will only build muscle if there is a demand. Plus, protein requirements for this are grossly overstated. 

- Exercise to lose weight

The amount of energy utilized when exercising is so small that it can not have a significant effect on weight loss.

- Aerobic exercise of 20 min+ burns body fat.

Technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal.

- Exercise stimulates your metabolism causing your body to burn additional calories during the day.


Again, technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal

- Resistance training builds muscle so yo will burn additional calories. 

Again, technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal.

Basically they evolved from these fathers:

Serge Nubret: pump training with high volume and high frequency
Frank Zane: pump training with push, pull, legs split
Arnold: heavy lifting with high volume and high frequency
Mike Mentzer: low volume and low frequency and lifting heavy

Basically none of these methods work and all YouTube fake natties seem to resell some form of the above.


You say "none work"?
So how have I put muscle on by lifting weights? A better reply is they all work to a small degree (for natties).
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#14
(11-14-2018, 12:28 PM)jimjohnson Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 03:48 PM)Brett Wrote:
(11-10-2018, 09:39 AM)Simple Simon Wrote: I'll list mine. Feel free to question or add. 

- Consuming protein builds muscle.

Protein will only build muscle if there is a demand. Plus, protein requirements for this are grossly overstated. 

- Exercise to lose weight

The amount of energy utilized when exercising is so small that it can not have a significant effect on weight loss.

- Aerobic exercise of 20 min+ burns body fat.

Technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal.

- Exercise stimulates your metabolism causing your body to burn additional calories during the day.


Again, technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal

- Resistance training builds muscle so yo will burn additional calories. 

Again, technically a correct statement, but the actual amount is minimal.

Basically they evolved from these fathers:

Serge Nubret: pump training with high volume and high frequency
Frank Zane: pump training with push, pull, legs split
Arnold: heavy lifting with high volume and high frequency
Mike Mentzer: low volume and low frequency and lifting heavy

Basically none of these methods work and all YouTube fake natties seem to resell some form of the above.


You say "none work"?
So how have I put muscle on by lifting weights? A better reply is they all work to a small degree (for natties).

Obviously.

I was referring more to the fact that:

Serges method will burn you. Even though the weights are light, training six days a week with high volume (he did 8 sets of about 6-7 exercises a workout) will burn you out before you've even made any gains.

Franks method is the most usable for natties (Day 1: legs Day 2: push Day 3: pull Day 4: rest) but even this method when done for more than a month or two will require more rest days to fully recover (based on the fact in his program he deadlifted on every pull day. He performed all three lifts, bench, squat and deadlift which is how he based his program). Plus pump training doesn't work at all for natties (past nube gains).

Arnold's method, will just plain old burn you out after two weeks. 6 days a week, heavy with the " let's get serious" attitude.

Lastly, and probably the most ineffective method of them all for natties is Mentzers. The lift extremely heavy to failure once every week (although I think he took even longer breaks) for one or two working sets for very low reps utilising negatives and forced reps.

I was hoping I wouldn't have to explain all that, but anyway.
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#15
- whatever new bulking "serious" mass routine the gurus are selling
- comrade Russian routines
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#16
Convict Conditioning system - quite popular but overpriced and overhyped from fake author full of broscience, fitness and prison fairy tales

Warrior and Renegade diet books - again, very popular but full of broscience and doubtful historical data, and basically just another ripoff of intermittent fasting

You can easily find all info from these books online for free

Kettlebells - quite useless and expensive
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#17
Most of these are specifically bodybuilding scams. I was looking at this thread as more fitness scams, as they are far more widely promoted to the general public - and then believed. I've actually thought of an overall statement that should cover it all.

The fitness industry is based on lies and scams. But because the public figures are smiling and attractive, and claim to be so concerned about everyone's health and happiness, they get a free pass.
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#18
hmmm...i found this to be the most effective method for natties to get up to their potential. Still glad you "explained" the facts to us:
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Lastly, and probably the most ineffective method of them all for natties is Mentzers. The lift extremely heavy to failure once every week (although I think he took even longer breaks) for one or two working sets for very low reps utilising negatives and forced reps.
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#19
(11-15-2018, 01:27 PM)jimjohnson Wrote: hmmm...i found this to be the most effective method for natties to get up to their potential. Still glad you "explained" the facts to us:
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Lastly, and probably the most ineffective method of them all for natties is Mentzers. The lift extremely heavy to failure once every week (although I think he took even longer breaks) for one or two working sets for very low reps utilising negatives and forced reps.

Good for you. I believed an article was even written by truth seeker on heavy duty training. Maybe you should look it up. Although that's not the reason for me listing it as ineffective. If the program worked for you, its because you weren't really following Mentzers full program as he did. Training a muscle group once a week can and does work, but that's not what I was referring too, nor what mentzer preached. He preached one working set to failure, perhaps once a week maybe longer for a bodypart. Maybe he did some warm ups (probably did), but it doesn't change the fact this method is not the "best" for naturals. That doesn't mean it can't get you to your genetic potential however.

Glad I could explain it to you again.
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#20
(11-14-2018, 08:17 PM)Navigator Wrote: Convict Conditioning system - quite popular but overpriced and overhyped from fake author full of broscience, fitness and prison fairy tales

Warrior and Renegade diet books - again, very popular but full of broscience and doubtful historical data, and basically just another ripoff of intermittent fasting

You can easily find all info from these books online for free

Kettlebells - quite useless and expensive

I like some things about kettlebells, but they are definitely expensive.
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