Once you hit your ceiling you may as well...

[jimjohnson]

so as a natural once you hit your ceiling in muscle development )whatever that is) and it's not very high you may as well switch to maintenance routine.

And what would be wrong with weight training once a month to do this?  Why train once a week if you are simply maintaining when once a month will suffice?

Once you train for 5+ years.....switch to once a month and do other things with your life. You have reached your ceiling and that's it.

You will get B*S'et to death about how you have to do more, lift heavier, lift more often, lift different ways to "shock" your body into growth and increase T production.......It's all B*S* The gyms, the personal trainers can't tell you the truth. Keep buying and believing.

If you kept putting muscle on every single year.....hell you would see many pro bodybuilder physiques on 40-50 year men wouldn't you?

More isn't better. After a certain point you are simply wasting your time. Naturally of course.

[jimjohnson]

It shows the psychological effect of lifting weights in a gym.

Many people think if they do not go in and train 3x a week their muscle will shrink. Not true. I read it takes from 2-4 weeks to muscle to start shrinking....even then it's fractions.

Do people think every time they go into a gym they progress? Can you lift more by training every other day? Not a chance.

Dead lift say 130kg for 12....

Have one days rest...do it again.....now you can't do it. You feel sore, weaker. What is the point in this session except to waste time? Maybe take in some eye candy?

This is where PED's kick in. Now you can train and progress 2x+ a week. Us natural have no chance.

[Plato]

I know muscle doesn't go quick but whey does you'r muscle go soft when you don't train for 4 weeks . every time de load it happens is it because I not using them at all .

I think body fat is mine cause of illusion

[TruthSeeker]

Once a month is extreme. The detraining period is too long and you are actually putting yourself in danger. Your body deconditions and when you go for your monthly training, you are putting it at risk. I wouldn't do it.

[jimjohnson]

Why not?

Where is the science behind what we need to do to get to maximum natural levels then maintain it?

If you are not progressing anymore what is maintenance?

How long does it take muscle to start shrinking? I have heard 2 weeks i have heard 4....again no hard proof.

If it is 4 weeks why train more than once every 4 weeks? If it is 2 then every 2 weeks should do it...

Once you are at your natural muscle mass naturally...what is left? Maintenance right? Maybe strength but why? If you can maintain at once a month or once every 2 weeks why train weekly or even 2-3x weekly? Aren't you simply wasting your time?

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I know muscle doesn't go quick  but whey does you'r muscle go soft when you don't train for 4 weeks . every time de load it happens is it because I not using them at all .

I think body fat is mine cause of illusion

i have not really experienced this...

Does it really happen or do you "feel like it happens"?

Are you thinking during a work out the muscles are pumped then go down over the next 12 hours?

 They do say a pumped muscle can be upto about 40% bigger for upto 12 hours after a workout....probably why you get people that train for the pump effect often but it's not actual muscle growth...again....a lot of theory but there is some truth to this