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Injuries that don't go away
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In my first years of training I always went balls to the wall, doing stupid things like grinding reps and going to failure on every single set. But I suppose training the same exercises over and over again also had something to do with it too. Now I feel discomfort center-right upper back after rows sometimes, but the worst injury was while doing squats and it's quite interesting because I didn't use to train squats a lot. 
   One night I was doing sets(squats) with 90 kg and on the second set I felt something wrong and I stopped. It didn't hurt, just a lot of discomfort. About 4 days after that I decided to do weighted lunges instead of squats. I used light weight and was doing 12-15 reps. On the third set going down I felt a sharp pain in my right lower back-buttock. I went to sit down but it didn't go away so I put my weights back and decided to lie in bed. When I woke up next morning it was even worse. I couldn't get up in a "full crunch" position cuz it felt like someone was putting needles in my ass-back. Fortunatelly the sharp pain went away in about 2-3 days and after 6 days I started training again with some discomfort during the session and prolonged soreness + a lil pain the next days in that spot. One month and a half or so I even felt little pain when walking for long periods too.
   It's been 3 years since then and after squats, deadlifts (not so much) and mainly any exercises that involves lifting something I still get the same faint pain/discomfort/bad soreness few days after. What's most interesting is that if I stop training I feel like a new man like I never injured myself. I can run, bike and I don't feel anything. 
   If anyone of you suffered something similar and maybe they fixed it(or not) please share your story with us!
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#2
The way I see it, there are two options.

A. Squats and deads overload your hips too much and aggravate the area. So, lower weight and/or volume can help.

B. It's all in your mind. It hurts because you expect it to hurt. Sometimes this is the case with some chronic injuries.

Also, if you are doing low bar, you may consider stopping because it places more stress on the hips.
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#3
(12-30-2018, 09:44 PM)TruthSeeker Wrote: The way I see it, there are two options.

A. Squats and deads overload your hips too much and aggravate the area. So, lower weight and/or volume can help.

B. It's all in your mind. It hurts because you expect it to hurt. Sometimes this is the case with some chronic injuries.

Also, if you are doing low bar, you may consider stopping because it places more stress on the hips.

It's not just squats and deadlifts, even unloading bags of sand, potatoes from a car triggers it.

Also, it's a very specific spot, not the whole lower back.

Regarding the expectancy, I once had elbow tendonitis when I was doing a lot of triceps work, mostly skull-crushers but it went away completely after going back to compound movements like dips and hip push-ups.

I tried to do mobility exercises and what's funny enough, if I force myself to bend forward (to stretch my back) I feel the same thing the next day like I do after a session of squats which surprised me at first.

I wondered if it could be structural damage, like a semi torn tendon, or sciatica but the symptoms are different. Though I'm functional, I can lift as much as I did before the injury. At this point I'm not sure what to think but one thing I'm sure of is that it's not all in my head.
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(12-30-2018, 06:40 PM)Alex Wrote: In my first years of training I always went balls to the wall, doing stupid things like grinding reps and going to failure on every single set. But I suppose training the same exercises over and over again also had something to do with it too. Now I feel discomfort center-right upper back after rows sometimes, but the worst injury was while doing squats and it's quite interesting because I didn't use to train squats a lot. 
   One night I was doing sets(squats) with 90 kg and on the second set I felt something wrong and I stopped. It didn't hurt, just a lot of discomfort. About 4 days after that I decided to do weighted lunges instead of squats. I used light weight and was doing 12-15 reps. On the third set going down I felt a sharp pain in my right lower back-buttock. I went to sit down but it didn't go away so I put my weights back and decided to lie in bed. When I woke up next morning it was even worse. I couldn't get up in a "full crunch" position cuz it felt like someone was putting needles in my ass-back. Fortunatelly the sharp pain went away in about 2-3 days and after 6 days I started training again with some discomfort during the session and prolonged soreness + a lil pain the next days in that spot. One month and a half or so I even felt little pain when walking for long periods too.
   It's been 3 years since then and after squats, deadlifts (not so much) and mainly any exercises that involves lifting something I still get the same faint pain/discomfort/bad soreness few days after. What's most interesting is that if I stop training I feel like a new man like I never injured myself. I can run, bike and I don't feel anything. 
   If anyone of you suffered something similar and maybe they fixed it(or not) please share your story with us!
Squats are not naturally occurring movement. Nowhere in the caveman history we would put heavy stuff on the back and squat, we would drag it or carry it. You can ignore the mass science and media behind the squat. A lot of people are not suited for squats and they get injuries like you, some pay the price later. There are of course the ones who do fine, but are you the one? 
Find a substitution for this exercise and have your problem checked out by doc.
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(12-30-2018, 06:40 PM)Alex Wrote: In my first years of training I always went balls to the wall, doing stupid things like grinding reps and going to failure on every single set. But I suppose training the same exercises over and over again also had something to do with it too. Now I feel discomfort center-right upper back after rows sometimes, but the worst injury was while doing squats and it's quite interesting because I didn't use to train squats a lot. 
   One night I was doing sets(squats) with 90 kg and on the second set I felt something wrong and I stopped. It didn't hurt, just a lot of discomfort. About 4 days after that I decided to do weighted lunges instead of squats. I used light weight and was doing 12-15 reps. On the third set going down I felt a sharp pain in my right lower back-buttock. I went to sit down but it didn't go away so I put my weights back and decided to lie in bed. When I woke up next morning it was even worse. I couldn't get up in a "full crunch" position cuz it felt like someone was putting needles in my ass-back. Fortunatelly the sharp pain went away in about 2-3 days and after 6 days I started training again with some discomfort during the session and prolonged soreness + a lil pain the next days in that spot. One month and a half or so I even felt little pain when walking for long periods too.
   It's been 3 years since then and after squats, deadlifts (not so much) and mainly any exercises that involves lifting something I still get the same faint pain/discomfort/bad soreness few days after. What's most interesting is that if I stop training I feel like a new man like I never injured myself. I can run, bike and I don't feel anything. 
   If anyone of you suffered something similar and maybe they fixed it(or not) please share your story with us!
 I think recovery is the key. If you go balls to the wall with high reps and big weigths that is fine but it would take you about 2+ weeks to fully recover..maybe longer. When you see people doing this every other day...1 full days rest in between that's no where near enough time to recover. So they pound their body again..and again....get sore as hell, injured.

I do not think we need to lift weights as often as we were brainwashed to believe.

Let's say you deadlift 140kg for 12 reps....everyounce of effort drained. Sore as hell.

So what happens now? You have maxed your muscles, atp, nervous system out....it needs to fix, repair and re grow before the next workout. And that cannot be done in 48 hours....not 72.....If you are over 30 probably 10+ days..maybe longer.

So the next time you hit the weights you d.l. 145kg for 12 reps...progress....repeat.

What is the point in say d.l. 140kg for 12 reps in one session to then go back 3 days later and you can only manage 140kg for 9 reps? Waste of time...churning up the body for no progress...

  No-one naturally can progress training Monday-Wednesday-Friday... The gyms and PT want you to do this and buy into their systems etc...but it's actually b*s.

Weight lifting is very taxing. More is not better. You will get better results with going balls to the wall every 2 weeks than going backwards with training every other day...but you can't tell the gym rats this
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I was doing deadlifts rarely, mostly squats.
Also my left side(shoulders, traps, lats) is higher than my right side which I suspect plays a role in my discomfort/pain. I looked at pictures when I was around 10 yrs old and I only had a small pec muscle imbalance which is normal more or less but not the shoulder imbalance. Tried some stretches but they dodn't seem to help fix it. I think I wouldn't even have noticed the imbalance if it wasn't for the injury.
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