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Controlling Rage Around Women
#1
I'm going to be blunt. I despise women and tend to get very rageful when around them. Just the sound of their voices like the "Californian blonde chick" accent can make me a raging animal inside my head.

I have to go this unfortunate date/mingling event tonight and only doing it to get practice with talking to some new women at a place I've never been. However, I'm already getting paranoid and angry. Anticipating all the terrible things that can happen with women. Oh, and for context this is in NYC, a place where women have the highest standards ever and where competition is really fierce. I'm still in last year of undergrad without any prestigious job or social status and am competing against men who have careers in Wall Street so my odds are not in favor for me. 

How do you other guys control your anger so as to feel calm and confident "inside"? I haven't found any ways to do it. I can pretend to look calm and confident on the "outside", but it can't hide all the insecurities from women since they are blessed with that sixth sense of detecting men who are unstable, no matter what the men do to hide it.

I always worry I will get arrested one day when I get pissed by a woman who says or makes some gesture to disrespect me as a man. My therapist just teaches me meditation techniques and they only work maybe 25% of the time. I sometimes resort to calming drugs but then I get all spaced out at the bars/clubs and end up zombiefied in the corner on a couch somewhere. 

Dating sucks as all posters on here seem to realize.
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#2
Well Most my friends are women and I get on with them . I think women you are talking about are the annoying princess type. I stay away from them
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#3
When I am about to explode in rage at a female specimen, I storm out and get in my car. I then drive about aggressively with eminem on full wack. When I see a female walking along the side of the road, I wind the window down and give her a load of abuse before speeding off.

Always makes me feel better.
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#4
That is so patetic and the same time the only way for man, is really hard to be man now day when to be a pet for women is the norm
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#5
(12-08-2018, 05:18 PM)locutus24 Wrote: I'm going to be blunt. I despise women and tend to get very rageful when around them. Just the sound of their voices like the "Californian blonde chick" accent can make me a raging animal inside my head.

I have to go this unfortunate date/mingling event tonight and only doing it to get practice with talking to some new women at a place I've never been. However, I'm already getting paranoid and angry. Anticipating all the terrible things that can happen with women. Oh, and for context this is in NYC, a place where women have the highest standards ever and where competition is really fierce. I'm still in last year of undergrad without any prestigious job or social status and am competing against men who have careers in Wall Street so my odds are not in favor for me. 

How do you other guys control your anger so as to feel calm and confident "inside"? I haven't found any ways to do it. I can pretend to look calm and confident on the "outside", but it can't hide all the insecurities from women since they are blessed with that sixth sense of detecting men who are unstable, no matter what the men do to hide it.

I always worry I will get arrested one day when I get pissed by a woman who says or makes some gesture to disrespect me as a man. My therapist just teaches me meditation techniques and they only work maybe 25% of the time. I sometimes resort to calming drugs but then I get all spaced out at the bars/clubs and end up zombiefied in the corner on a couch somewhere. 

Dating sucks as all posters on here seem to realize.

It sounds like you do not have a problem talking to women its just you don't like too, which is understandable. However a man should always know how to hold conversations with women, its a skill that can help you, especially in situations where you need to gain an ally, or (and this sounds cold) use her to get something or do something for you. 

If you have low confidence when speaking to women its probably because you aren't okay with your own insecurity. You think other people are perfect. Try stop the self analysis and come to accept who you are. Also nobody is 100% certain in themselves, they may all look it, but most of the time, quite easily people can be triggered (especially women) emotionally.

I have come to realise there are two ways to interact with people and be 'untouchable'. Both ways require confidence. The first is to act fake like them, be super talkative, loud, laugh a lot, pretend to be pleased to be in their company and interested in everyone. The other way is to completely be yourself, if you want to act aloof, be silent, be talkative, be loud, be interested or be non-interested its all up to you. 

With the second way you are simply allowing yourself to be as natural as one can be. However I think Oscar Wilde said "acting natural is just a pose".
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#6
most women who says things is because they are insecure them self as in people who bully other people do the same . I like to say something funny back . but that to me is just people in general . I love women but obviously lot women have got bad behavior . like for men or women if they treat me like shit. ill say something back , our walk away you got respect yourself as well .
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#7
Man I don't know why I typed up such insane text. It's true that I have anger/resentment/hatred towards women, but I gotta keep my posts more formal in the future.

I was not thinking logically that day. Some days it seems my anger just makes me seem like a insecure deadbeat, which is partially true.

Well, I've chosen to do pretend mode confidence in the past with women. It's draining on mental resources though. I'm introverted by nature so I can only do pretend mode for small periods of time like a couple hours. I will act a bit more charming and smile/laugh even if it's not genuine. Some women find it natural and others probably sense it's not. Depends on the woman. Sometimes I use benzos to cheat since they relax me and make me more sociable. Don't do that anymore though as it's unhealthy and doesn't mix well with alcohol at bars where I mingle with most women. 

I've practiced quite a bit, but it's provided barely any benefits versus the costs of my internal resources. I had to court one female study partner for 6 months to have a one night stand. Ridiculous and inefficient. 


I generally have anti-social tendencies. Even everyday noises from people such as neighbors can make me pissed and want to physically hurt them.
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(01-29-2019, 01:34 AM)locutus24 Wrote: Man I don't know why I typed up such insane text. It's true that I have anger/resentment/hatred towards women, but I gotta keep my posts more formal in the future.

I was not thinking logically that day. Some days it seems my anger just makes me seem like a insecure deadbeat, which is partially true.

Well, I've chosen to do pretend mode confidence in the past with women. It's draining on mental resources though. I'm introverted by nature so I can only do pretend mode for small periods of time like a couple hours. I will act a bit more charming and smile/laugh even if it's not genuine. Some women find it natural and others probably sense it's not. Depends on the woman. Sometimes I use benzos to cheat since they relax me and make me more sociable. Don't do that anymore though as it's unhealthy and doesn't mix well with alcohol at bars where I mingle with most women. 

I've practiced quite a bit, but it's provided barely any benefits versus the costs of my internal resources. I had to court one female study partner for 6 months to have a one night stand. Ridiculous and inefficient. 


I generally have anti-social tendencies. Even everyday noises from people such as neighbors can make me pissed and want to physically hurt them.

Ive used anti-anxiety pills before. Not prescription drugs though. I found they provide a temporary solution and then faded. The root of the problem (the fear) always remains. Over time I just blunted the tip of the sword of my fear so to speak. 

My neightbours are super noisy. On a daily basis I have to deal with car idling, excessive revving, angle grinding, and dogs that won't shut up. 

I may as well be living in a industrial zone. I think they all add to my stress levels. Perhaps one day I will snap in a shopping mall at the teller for something trivial and they will have to escort me out with security Smile

Let me guess she was borderline average looking too? Women these days think they are special snowflakes (perhaps they always did, i'm not sure, atleast the narcissism wasn't around in the past because there wasn't social media).

I feel as if mingling with women in bars could be the single biggest waste of your (any mans) time. You are just throwing money away and brain cells. That same money men could use to take up hobbies such as painting, woodwork or even photography (not for instagram but personal enjoyment).
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#9
(01-29-2019, 06:21 AM)Brett Wrote:
(01-29-2019, 01:34 AM)locutus24 Wrote: Man I don't know why I typed up such insane text. It's true that I have anger/resentment/hatred towards women, but I gotta keep my posts more formal in the future.

I was not thinking logically that day. Some days it seems my anger just makes me seem like a insecure deadbeat, which is partially true.

Well, I've chosen to do pretend mode confidence in the past with women. It's draining on mental resources though. I'm introverted by nature so I can only do pretend mode for small periods of time like a couple hours. I will act a bit more charming and smile/laugh even if it's not genuine. Some women find it natural and others probably sense it's not. Depends on the woman. Sometimes I use benzos to cheat since they relax me and make me more sociable. Don't do that anymore though as it's unhealthy and doesn't mix well with alcohol at bars where I mingle with most women. 

I've practiced quite a bit, but it's provided barely any benefits versus the costs of my internal resources. I had to court one female study partner for 6 months to have a one night stand. Ridiculous and inefficient. 


I generally have anti-social tendencies. Even everyday noises from people such as neighbors can make me pissed and want to physically hurt them.

Ive used anti-anxiety pills before. Not prescription drugs though. I found they provide a temporary solution and then faded. The root of the problem (the fear) always remains. Over time I just blunted the tip of the sword of my fear so to speak. 

My neightbours are super noisy. On a daily basis I have to deal with car idling, excessive revving, angle grinding, and dogs that won't shut up. 

I may as well be living in a industrial zone. I think they all add to my stress levels. Perhaps one day I will snap in a shopping mall at the teller for something trivial and they will have to escort me out with security Smile

Let me guess she was borderline average looking too? Women these days think they are special snowflakes (perhaps they always did, i'm not sure, atleast the narcissism wasn't around in the past because there wasn't social media).

I feel as if mingling with women in bars could be the single biggest waste of your (any mans) time. You are just throwing money away and brain cells. That same money men could use to take up hobbies such as painting, woodwork or even photography (not for instagram but personal enjoyment).

Yeah, a temporary solution. I still take them for home use to ease anxiety due to noise and to help me get to sleep, but not for social situations. 

That sucks about your neighbors. I grew up in a rural place with 5 acres of woods, but now in NY and it's been difficult to adjust to the common noises here. First floor apartment near receptionist desk and hear walkie talkie sounds from the maintenance guys throughout day and construction noise on side of windows lately. No sound proof on front door of apt. All I can do is adapt like walking out in the parks or use noise cancelling headphones. And I feel you there. I think I may snap too. Actually I sort of did and got in trouble with the housing people once, but it was a small incident. Called some maintenance guys drilling on my wall scum bags. 

She was by my standards 5 or 6/10. Yeah nothing physically special or personality-wise. I mean maybe I'm not high on the scale to most women either. It's hard to judge one's own appearance. I am lean and not fat though and 6'1 with some muscle, but nothing noticeable during winter. Not sure how my face appeals to women. The face is quite important I believe. Got plenty of rejections and even humiliations when I was a teenager by attractive and average women. Still get fair share of rejections from average women. 

NY... probably worst place to attempt dating. Women here have many options to choose from, though ironic since according to statistics twice as many women are single than men here. Actually makes sense since they are picky and just keep looking for some imaginary guy. At least that's what they say. I had this obnoxious and useless therapist who I quit long ago tell me this saying: "women are choosers" and "choice definitely is in their favor in the big cities." Obvious and great for them... any thing good to say on men? Nope! 

A little side story too on average women. I hung out with a couple women at a bar I met. One who was not that good looking as in the ugly-nerd chick look. She was bragging to the other woman about this guy on Tinder who she "couldn't believe was into her." I caught a glimpse of him in a suit with shades and looked kind of tall. My first thought was "well, this guy had no choice even if he's somewhat good looking." The other good looking women are so picky they don't even consider someone like him so he scales down to uglier women like her. Twisted! I actually just got up and left as it was pissing me off. 

Yeah, bar mingling seems wasteful for me as well. Last one was a Match event in NYC at a high scale bar and it was okay. Got one date after that and then she said we weren't a match, which I expected. 

YES, I agree that hobbies are more fulfilling and that some money should go to them. I play piano 2-5 hours each day. It keeps the negative thoughts on women at bay since it engages the mind. Personally piano is more fulfilling than BB. BB you are limited by things like bone structure and the inevitable diminishing returns due to testosterone, but piano skill can be developed until you are dead or deaf. True that some have more talent than others, but I know of some average pianists who practiced hard and could play soothing yet complex Chopin pieces. 

Hope you have a busy hobby that keeps your life somewhat enjoyable or meaningful.

Suffering with NO meaning is the worst of all fates in my opinion.
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(01-29-2019, 09:18 PM)locutus24 Wrote:
(01-29-2019, 06:21 AM)Brett Wrote:
(01-29-2019, 01:34 AM)locutus24 Wrote: Man I don't know why I typed up such insane text. It's true that I have anger/resentment/hatred towards women, but I gotta keep my posts more formal in the future.

I was not thinking logically that day. Some days it seems my anger just makes me seem like a insecure deadbeat, which is partially true.

Well, I've chosen to do pretend mode confidence in the past with women. It's draining on mental resources though. I'm introverted by nature so I can only do pretend mode for small periods of time like a couple hours. I will act a bit more charming and smile/laugh even if it's not genuine. Some women find it natural and others probably sense it's not. Depends on the woman. Sometimes I use benzos to cheat since they relax me and make me more sociable. Don't do that anymore though as it's unhealthy and doesn't mix well with alcohol at bars where I mingle with most women. 

I've practiced quite a bit, but it's provided barely any benefits versus the costs of my internal resources. I had to court one female study partner for 6 months to have a one night stand. Ridiculous and inefficient. 


I generally have anti-social tendencies. Even everyday noises from people such as neighbors can make me pissed and want to physically hurt them.

Ive used anti-anxiety pills before. Not prescription drugs though. I found they provide a temporary solution and then faded. The root of the problem (the fear) always remains. Over time I just blunted the tip of the sword of my fear so to speak. 

My neightbours are super noisy. On a daily basis I have to deal with car idling, excessive revving, angle grinding, and dogs that won't shut up. 

I may as well be living in a industrial zone. I think they all add to my stress levels. Perhaps one day I will snap in a shopping mall at the teller for something trivial and they will have to escort me out with security Smile

Let me guess she was borderline average looking too? Women these days think they are special snowflakes (perhaps they always did, i'm not sure, atleast the narcissism wasn't around in the past because there wasn't social media).

I feel as if mingling with women in bars could be the single biggest waste of your (any mans) time. You are just throwing money away and brain cells. That same money men could use to take up hobbies such as painting, woodwork or even photography (not for instagram but personal enjoyment).

Yeah, a temporary solution. I still take them for home use to ease anxiety due to noise and to help me get to sleep, but not for social situations. 

That sucks about your neighbors. I grew up in a rural place with 5 acres of woods, but now in NY and it's been difficult to adjust to the common noises here. First floor apartment near receptionist desk and hear walkie talkie sounds from the maintenance guys throughout day and construction noise on side of windows lately. No sound proof on front door of apt. All I can do is adapt like walking out in the parks or use noise cancelling headphones. And I feel you there. I think I may snap too. Actually I sort of did and got in trouble with the housing people once, but it was a small incident. Called some maintenance guys drilling on my wall scum bags. 

She was by my standards 5 or 6/10. Yeah nothing physically special or personality-wise. I mean maybe I'm not high on the scale to most women either. It's hard to judge one's own appearance. I am lean and not fat though and 6'1 with some muscle, but nothing noticeable during winter. Not sure how my face appeals to women. The face is quite important I believe. Got plenty of rejections and even humiliations when I was a teenager by attractive and average women. Still get fair share of rejections from average women. 

NY... probably worst place to attempt dating. Women here have many options to choose from, though ironic since according to statistics twice as many women are single than men here. Actually makes sense since they are picky and just keep looking for some imaginary guy. At least that's what they say. I had this obnoxious and useless therapist who I quit long ago tell me this saying: "women are choosers" and "choice definitely is in their favor in the big cities." Obvious and great for them... any thing good to say on men? Nope! 

A little side story too on average women. I hung out with a couple women at a bar I met. One who was not that good looking as in the ugly-nerd chick look. She was bragging to the other woman about this guy on Tinder who she "couldn't believe was into her." I caught a glimpse of him in a suit with shades and looked kind of tall. My first thought was "well, this guy had no choice even if he's somewhat good looking." The other good looking women are so picky they don't even consider someone like him so he scales down to uglier women like her. Twisted! I actually just got up and left as it was pissing me off. 

Yeah, bar mingling seems wasteful for me as well. Last one was a Match event in NYC at a high scale bar and it was okay. Got one date after that and then she said we weren't a match, which I expected. 

YES, I agree that hobbies are more fulfilling and that some money should go to them. I play piano 2-5 hours each day. It keeps the negative thoughts on women at bay since it engages the mind. Personally piano is more fulfilling than BB. BB you are limited by things like bone structure and the inevitable diminishing returns due to testosterone, but piano skill can be developed until you are dead or deaf. True that some have more talent than others, but I know of some average pianists who practiced hard and could play soothing yet complex Chopin pieces. 

Hope you have a busy hobby that keeps your life somewhat enjoyable or meaningful.

Suffering with NO meaning is the worst of all fates in my opinion.

It must be hard to go from living by the woods to living in the city. The adjustment must be quite drastic.

I wish I could live by the woods some day.

Keep up the piano, its a skill that nobody can ever take away from you once you have mastered it (within your genetic limit).

I need to find more hobbies besides just lifting weights. At the moment all I do is gym and work, with the occasional jog on the beach.

Same here, I have experienced some positive responses from woman in the real world. Two middle aged woman with kids have told me I am good looking, and I'm sure they had nothing to gain from telling me this. One said I was 'perfect' and the other said 'very hot' or something to that effect. But whenever I used Tinder I just felt borderline below average based on my poor success rate. Perhaps I just had bad photos, I'm not sure.

One thing I know is although most women have the exact same preferences when it comes to height, broad shoulders, aesthetic face etc. They tend to differ in what they prefer, such as long noses, eyebrow shape, cheek bone depth etc. Very few men have such perfect facial features to attract every female they look at.

I can only imagine that the girls in NY are very shallow and pretentious. If it makes you feel any better, in most western influenced countries the woman are like this. There are exceptions, but exceptions don't nullify the rule, they uphold it.
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