ok, you guys missed my point
Let me start from the beginning,
Lets say a guy, we will call him guy A, starts playing sports at the age of 9, and by the age of 14 he has started working out in the gym also, all the way up to 20 (for the purpose of my point here) . All these years he has put in the work, had a good nutrition and proper sleep.
Now we go to guy B. He did not play sports from a young age, he was kinda chubby as a kid and as a teenager he was still chubby , because of gaming all day, eating crappy food and loss of sleep due to gaming marathons. At the age of 20, he suddenly wakes up one day, and sees a huge belly and says to himself, boy i need to get in shape.
What happens next? Well here is the thing, he joins the same gym guy A is. They are at the same age. Do you believe, guy B is going to reach the level of guy A in lets say, 2 years mark?
Lets take it step by step, guy A has put in a decade of work into his body. Btw, i consider good nutrition, proper sleep AND training as "putting in the work", and not only proper training here.
Guy B on the other hand, has zero work into his body up until now. His body was constantly overfed with proceesed carbs, very low protein and lots of sweeteners . His insulin sensitivity, is most likely not optimal hence the beer belly. Poor sleep scedule may also have hurt his hormonal profile a bit. Guy B, is going to spend almost 12 months getting rid of his beer belly. That will leave him with the classic look, skinny fat, due to bad nutrition he has had all these years. Now he has to increase his muscle mass in order to get rid of the skinny fat look. Well assuming he follows a proper strength training program and not fluff and pump that could take him almost 3 years to do, maybe 5-6.
So, almost a decade is all he needs in order for him "look like he lifts". Thats assuming that he is willing to make sacrifices, and put in the work (statistically not on his favor because most people give up from slow results and leave the gym after 1 month)
But what about guy A all this time? Guy A is training like guy B is. The difference is, he is ahead of the curve . He has already built a (strength) base, and already has an athletic bodyfat. This leaves him free to do bulking/cutting and work on his strength. There is no way guy B, is ever going to reach the level of guy A, unless drugs come into play or something terrible happens to guy A and puts him back into his fitness for a long time.
As Scooby says, "it took your body years in getting fat, you cant just diet for 1 month and expect years of bodyfat gain to be gone in such a short amount of time" Which is something extremely true and unfortunately its something not a lot of people say, probably because its a hard pill to swallow. People want the NOW results, with the press of a button. Unfortunately some things take time and you cant shortchange fitness (you may shortchange muscle gain with steroids, but you cannot shortchange fitness)
(11-26-2018, 11:29 AM)Brett Wrote: I'm finding it difficult to believe that laziness is inherited. That's like saying being into sadism is inherited. People like to Blame their fuckups on others "oh my dad was an alcoholic", etc. Then they wonder why they are never successful at anything and watch 'how to become rich fast' YouTube vids but they can't even take responsibility for any mistake they have ever made.
You can play this card until you laying on your death bed.To be honest, you only deceiving yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7wAithl7I
science disagrees with you on this. There is indeed a genetic link between laziness and the reward pathway you get from exercise. For some people, exercise is not enjoyable at all and do whatever they can in order to avoid it .
Does that mean a person with "inherited laziness" cannot get in shape? Well no. Its just that he is statistically more likely to be a couch potato, than a super athlete.