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Hello to everybody. Hello TruthSeeker. I am a long time reader of your work, back when you wrote on the "irongangsta" site and another site which i cannot remember the name of.


I am here to share a hardship story, in hope that my tough path , will give inspiration to people who will read this thread to never put their heads down and never quit their dreams no matter what . So here is a brief story, and i warn you it is going to be long, so prepare to read for quite a while Big Grin


Currently i am 25 years old, living in Greece, and early 2019 i am going to graduate university. I have always been a fun of strength sports, and i always envied strong people. Maybe this had to do because i was very thin, and weak , and i always wanted to become a stronger version of myself. So i started lifting at the age of 16, and at the age of 19 i started to do powerlifting workouts. So there i met my first obstacle. Powerlifting was not a known sport in Greece, and most gyms were bro gyms which did not allow heavy deadlifts, chalk etc. I had to change 3 different gyms in order to find a "hardcore one " , that was owned by a bodybuilder. Oh the things i saw in that gym. But thats a story for a different thread Tongue 

Anyhow, around 2014 a federation was founded, which started organizing powerlifting meets. So, long story short, i started competing, at the age of 20 weighting 65kg (1.70 height). My first competition was a failure, because my technique was bad and made a lot of mistakes. But my second meet, and a lot of meets after, were a huge success (always placing 1st or 2nd - even on international meets).

So, here is where the multiple sclerosis thing comes in. Last year, around November, i noticed that i did not have a clear vision on my left eye . At first i though i was just tired. As the days passed, this clear vision became severe. To the point that i tested 2.5/10 vision, so i was essentially blind in my left eye. The doctors said that i had optic neuritis, and i had to move to the hospital ASAP. I was like what the fck. So, there i was at the hospital, which had a specialization in neurological issues. I told the doctors that i was fine but they insisted to keep me for 4 days in order to do blood tests and MRIs. At that point i did not grasp the idea of me having multiple sclerosis, even though google(lol) had optic neuritis as a symptom of multiple sclerosis. As i was staying in the hospital, i started reading more and more about multiple sclerosis, and optic neuritis. A lot of sites stated that 50% of people who get optic neuritis have multiple sclerosis. I had to man up and at that point i accepted that i might be in that 50%.

So the day of the official diagnosis came, and doctors informed me that i indeed had multiple sclerosis. That moment, is the moment that i cannot forget. I felt my feet crumble and just felt that my life was over - for a brief moment. I cried a lot on my way back home, because i though that i had something terminal at that time. By the time i arrived home, i had to "be strong" and just inform everybody of the situation, without me breaking infront of them. I was indeed very calm when i made the announcement, and i recall saying "my life will keep going as it already was, nothing is gonna change and i wont allow it (multiple sclerosis) to change who i am.

So, i started training again. After a bit of a time off, due to me being under cortisone which did not allow me to train hard. I trained like a madman. And i competed again, and managed to place 3rd, after starting from point 0 due to cortisone being a highly catabolic hormone. 



I am still in battle with the "fiend" inside me. Multiple sclerosis makes my everyday life very unpredictable and i had to make a lot of adjustments in order to be happy . One huge drawback of multiple sclerosis meds, and MS itself, is that you experience tiredness even though you sleep well at night. This has made my training, like my everyday life, unpredictable as to how i am going to train, or how much energy i have to train. Training in a half-wake, half-sleep state is no fun at all, but most of my days are like this.

So whats the point of my story anyway, you might ask. Well, all i want is to be an inspiration to whoever reads this and is having a rough time in his life(be it health,mental health,break up,divorce, financial issues). Hand in there. Always be present in the moment. At the end of the day, if you let a situation define you, you have just lost the battle my friend. Continue to fight whatever bad situation you face and YOU are going to rise wiser and stronger. Strong and successful people are made though lifes hardships, and not by living in mansions and driving lamborginis (kinobody joke there). A successful person, by my definition, is someone who has a debilitating condition, but does not let it define him, nor guide him. Every successful person you know, be it celebrity or not, have 1 thing in common. They never quit their dreams, no matter what. They see hardships as a challenge, and not as a way to stop pursuing their own goals. I dont remember who said the following quote, but it goes like this " you lose when you quit, not when you lose." Quiting in what will actually worsen your (current) bad situation, because you are then going to face both the failure and the quiting .

What i used to think on my first days of diagnosis, was "its only as bad as you make it out to be" which actually turned out to be true, because nowadays i feel like i have nothing and my daily life is the same as it was before my diagnosis (minus a lot of drugs i am currently taking)

Thanks a lot for reading. I hope this will help our fellow readers/ members. Feel free to ask me anything, i will be happy to reply. Big Grin
Man that sucks for you. Glad you have fought through and continue to fight. Like you said quitting on life won’t make your situation any better. You constantly have to stay on your A game and that takes a certain mind set and a remarkable amount of self discipline that most people can’t understand. People like you remind me to be grateful for my life and health as it is, because this can change any day at any moment. I read a quote a while back that certainly applies to you and anyone fighting through horrible life challenges and staying positive.

“Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved”

Helen Keller


Stay positive as you can man, and keep pushing till you can’t, then push some more. You only get one go around so it has to count no matter what.
(10-25-2018, 04:45 PM)Flip109 Wrote: [ -> ]Man that sucks for you. Glad you have fought through and continue to fight. Like you said quitting on life won’t make your situation any better. You constantly have to stay on your A game and that takes a certain mind set and a remarkable amount of self discipline that most people can’t understand. People like you remind me to be grateful for my life and health as it is, because this can change any day at any moment. I read a quote a while back that certainly applies to you and anyone fighting through horrible life challenges and staying positive.

“Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved”

Helen Keller


Stay positive as you can man, and keep pushing till you can’t, then push some more. You only get one go around so it has to count no matter what.

Right before my diagnosis, i was running 5k almost every day, deadlifted 130kg for reps, 90kg bench, squat 110kg  and pressed close to 60kg. all those lifts went down by A LOT when i was given intravein cortisone. I returned to the gym, feeling very weak. I hoped on the dip station to do some dips, and my whole body was shaking like crazy. Needless to say i did not even do a single rep in fear that i would fall down.

I remember i began squatting with 30kg, completely baby weight compared to what i was lifting, and i shit you not, i saw that as a victory. Unfortunately cortisone is a very long acting drug, and stays in your body close to 6months to a year after being given the drug. And guess what cortisone does to your muscle and fat tissue. It catabolizes muscle tissue rapidly and directly feeds your fat tissue. So in essence, it does the polar opposite of what anabolic steroids do.
So, i went from being athletic and having an athletic looking body , to being a puffy mess full of water retention, reduced muscle mass, and increased fat storage.
Right before my diagnosis i think i weighted about 68-69kg tops, but cortisone made my scale weight go up to 73.5 (this is the highest i have ever weighted in my entire life)

And it was not 73.5 pure muscle, it was a mix of water retention and fat storage plus reduced muscle mass. So... guess what happens next. It made  my daily walking a strenuous activity and i would get tired after like 10mins of constant walking.


But i always kept on my mind that i was going to compete again.  I was going to be successful again. I WAS going to make it . And i did. It was very tough but i did.

To my experience, if you have such a drawback in life you need to make baby steps . Every step is a victory. At first, just being able to go to the gym/university without feeling tired was a success for me. It can be very tempting to just give up at that point, and i personally know people who at the sign of first adversity just gave up their goals because "man look at what happened to me ". To my experience, as i already mentioned above, this type of quitting will make matters even worse and possibly lead to depression.
Thank you for sharing your story. I admire your strength. Many men give up from facing smaller obstacles.

Life hit you, but you didn't quit. You kept moving forward.

Your story reminded me of this clip.



Good luck in the future and thank you for stopping by.
Thanks a lot for the support. I am now going to talk about how i go on with my daily life and some of the hardships i pass on a daily or weekly basis.

This is going to be the dark side of having multiple sclerosis. If you are not in the mood to read something sad, please dont. This post wont make you laugh i am warning you


 I take a lot of meds/supplements. Some to counter-act the side effects from multiple sclerosis medicine, some for general health. I take so many that my friends and girlfriend often make fun of me and say "lol what are you 80 years old ? lol Big Grin" ofc they say it in a kind manner and not to be judgemental. I cant name the names of the supplements/meds, but i am going to list their use

1) Meds used for ADHD (i have legit ADHD caused by multiple sclerosis) in order to "wake me up" (more on that later)
2) meds for stomach protection
3) omega 3 + D3 25.000iu(d3 is taken every week)
4) supplements +1 med for sleep
5) multiple sclerosis med.
6) Testosterone every 3 months - now this is a sensitive point, but i am briefly going to talk about it. Multiple sclerosis causes ED (erectile dysfunction) in 90% of males. This ED is caused by the poor signal given by neurons, and not by having bad bloodwork. In essence, you might have perfect hormone profile, but the body acts like it has hypogonadism, even though it does not. This leads to poor erections, loss of sensitivity, and no orgasm. And if thats not all, here is where it gets even more pissing. You, as a person, want to have sex. But you body does not listen. This lead to a lot of arguments with previous girlfriends and my current one because you not being able to... do the deed, gives a lot of bad impression - you know how women are, they immediately think its their fault and that you are not interested in them.
  This ED also causes one annoying side effect... During the night a lot of men want to pee, but their prostate fires up, and causes an erection in order for you to keep sleeping. Well, thats not what happens to me. If i get the need to pee, i will wake up,like my prostate does not work or something lol. Also, i rarely get morning wood upon waking up.
   Now, i also take ADHD meds, as i mentioned. Well those are helping both for ADHD and my energy levels.  Here is the problem, MS (multiple sclerosis) causes fatigue. And not the kind of fatigue in which you just want to go to sleep. I mean both mental fatigue, and physical fatigue, even though you sleep well at night.
How this fatigue manifests? Well, it can make even the simplest task seem tough as hell, like for example, going to the kitchen to go to bring yourself a glass of water. And no, you cant just say "man up" there. It has nothing to do with "maning up" It takes a lot of meditation to break out of this shit, and it does not always work. Also, another horrible side effect, is a headache right in the middle of the frontal lobe (your forehead, just above your eyes). This shit, can last for 30 mins, up to hours. It does not pass with any anti-headache meds, it only passes (and not always) with coffee and/or adhd meds. But even those, do not always work.

This is the so called, "brainfog". You might get asked what your name is, and its like your brain is "loading" the answer.You dont answer fast, you answer like you have some kind of internet connection delay. This brainfog to my observation is usually combined with physical fatigue maybe this is what causes it soooo...yea just imagine how bad you feel right then.


Lastly, sleeping meds. Another annoying aspect. A lot of people with MS have sleep issues, ranging from poor quality of sleep to insomnia. I am not going to talk a lot about this, but from what i understand, a lot of the symptoms, like brain fog, are interconnected together. What do i mean by that. Well, you sleep at night, 8 hours of sleep. Then you wake up next morning, and you are a complete wreck, like you partied in a house party all night with excstasy. When i wake up like this, i have no willpower to do anything. I just want to stay at home and just let the day flow, until this shit passes. Its horrible. ADHD meds kinda help, but there are days that even those meds do not help at all.
Then, there is another paradox. You wake up like you have been hit by a train, but as the night comes, you have no willpower to sleep. Like your mind is racing, even though it does not. If you "force" yourself to sleep, then you either :

1) dont sleep as much
2) wake up the next day but with horrible quality of sleep.

Sleeping meds, are the only source of help here. If i do not take them, then 90% i will wake up in the middle of the night and i will have a hard time sleeping again.

Thats it... Sorry for the long post. More posts coming soon ! They are going to be more cheerful i promise Angel Angel Angel 

Thanks a lot for reading