02-14-2019, 05:31 PM
(02-14-2019, 04:38 PM)Hans Wrote: Nice. That story belongs into a book on proper male behavior to be handed out to boys when they reach puberty (better to be told by their fathers though).
But think twice. Is Rob really a "bad boy" here? What did he actually do? He scolded Bianca, rightfully, for giving away *his* property without having asked him before. He then took *his* shirt back from a stranger (who in my opinion should not have taken it in the first place: keep your personal problems out of your business, otherwise, it only calls for trouble). And he tossed *his* shirt into the garbage, clearly a symbolic act to underline his position. He did not harm anybody here. Whether you like it or not, that was all acceptable male behavior with the last scene possibly being some show made up for the girl (but *he* paid for it since he threw *his* shirt away).
A real "bad boy" would probably beaten up the gardener or the girl. A real bad boy acts out of any conventions not fearing the consequences. A man who asserts his interests is not a bad boy just because of doing so.
On Stan, yeah, his behavior got him nowhere. He lost two shirts in that story (even his favorite one) to a stranger for nothing in return. Bianca now knows he is a nice guy with whom she can do whatever she likes. But is Stan really a "nice guy"? I mean, did he give his shirts to the gardener for reasons of charity? No, he wanted to impress Bianca in a sneaky way. That's not nice, is it?
So in the end, Rob possibly gave Bianca the tingles due to his assertive behavior while Stan will most likely end in friend-zone territory eventually.
Thank you bro.
Its a children story though so I couldn't have said "then Rob proceded to strangle Bianca" now could I

I do understand what you are saying but I don't think to qualify as a bad boy you need to resort to force. I still believe it can just be your sheer coldness or indifference that ticks the box so to speak.
Yes with Stan representing the nice guy community, often that sneaky behaviour is very present. These men have earned the title nice guy, but often their intentions are never pure. They want sex just as much as the bad boys do, however their way of going about it, is to almost go into stealth mode.
They hope by never actually making their intentions explicitly clear (like grabbing the woman and going for the kiss) they can still attract her interest by being polite and respectful. Normally a facade, which is why it mostly backfires and they get friendzoned.
I guess that is the irony of it. Nice guys are not really nice and bad boys are actually just looking out for their own interests which is actually acceptable human behaviour.
Looks like whoever came up with those terms for each camp actually created a false pretence of who the men in each camp actually are.
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