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The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - TruthSeeker - 05-10-2019

All those professors like Paul Carter from Inject Nation will fill your head with their training preferences and tell you that it's the law. 

But in the end, we all know that it's nonsense and those same men would be shockingly small if they weren't injecting heavy doses or roids and eating an absurd amount of food for years. 

That's their secret. If you can even call it that.


RE: The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - Flip109 - 05-10-2019

I really did like that article and I think most of the stuff he puts out is pretty spot on. The article wasn’t about roid injecting females and claiming some magic. It showed a very basic simple routine hitting each body part once a week can yield results. 10 good sets per body part a week can drive muscle growth and strength. I actually may change my twice a week full body routine up and try the split in the article for myself. Don’t have anything to lose as I’m natural haha


RE: The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - Mass_Bixo - 05-11-2019

(05-10-2019, 10:49 PM)Flip109 Wrote: I really did like that article and I think most of the stuff he puts out is pretty spot on. The article wasn’t about roid injecting females and claiming some magic. It showed a very basic simple routine hitting each body part once a week can yield results. 10 good sets per body part a week can drive muscle growth and strength. I actually may change my twice a week full body routine up and try the split in the article for myself. Don’t have anything to lose as I’m natural haha

Yes, this one was actually a pretty decent training recomendation.

Of course, as anything that is written there, overvalues the role of manipulating sets, reps and exercise selection while ignoring the role of hormones in muscle building.

But yet, at least is a sane, pratical, training guideline. Its not their usual nonsense of training twice a day doing giant-sets that take half of the equipment in the gym while swallowing a gallon of expensive sugar.


RE: The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - khrazz - 05-14-2019

(05-10-2019, 10:49 PM)Flip109 Wrote: I really did like that article and I think most of the stuff he puts out is pretty spot on. The article wasn’t about roid injecting females and claiming some magic. It showed a very basic simple routine hitting each body part once a week can yield results. 10 good sets per body part a week can drive muscle growth and strength. I actually may change my twice a week full body routine up and try the split in the article for myself. Don’t have anything to lose as I’m natural haha

Hitting each body part once a week is not ideal for MPS (muscle protein synthesis) for a lot of reasons. You are only going to shortchange your results if you follow such a routine and dont inject yourself with dozens of steroids to keep MPS elevated during the week. As a natural, MPS peaks at about 28-48 hours - after that you no longer grow, you maintain and if you dont stimulate MPS again for a few days you start to slowly regress.

If getting good results is not in your priorities, then by all means do it. After all its better than being sedentary for sure - but keep in mind that the program you are thinking of doing is not meant for naturals.


RE: The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - Flip109 - 05-14-2019

Protein synthesis means jack and shit when you have been lifting naturally for the past 24 years. I hit my genetic peak a long long time ago. It doesn’t matter these days if I hit a muscle once a week or three times. I won’t look any different at all. Unless I start to eat like a horse and fatten/bulk up. And not doing that anytime soon.


RE: The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - Mass_Bixo - 05-16-2019

(05-14-2019, 07:14 AM)khrazz Wrote: Hitting each body part once a week is not ideal for MPS (muscle protein synthesis) for a lot of reasons. You are only going to shortchange your results if you follow such a routine and dont inject yourself with dozens of steroids to keep MPS elevated during the week. As a natural, MPS peaks at about 28-48 hours - after that you no longer grow, you maintain and if you dont stimulate MPS again for a few days you start to slowly regress.

If getting good results is not in your priorities, then by all means do it. After all its better than being sedentary for sure - but keep in mind that the program you are thinking of doing is not meant for naturals.

Fitness writers keep pushing the idea that hypertrophy is proportional to time spent with protein synthesis above baseline.
So with you hit a muscle 3x week you stay 3 or 6 days (depending if you consider 24 or 48h of elevated synthesis) out of 7 growing, if you hit a muscle once a week you only spend 1 or 2 days growing. As a result you would grow 3x faster on a 3x a week (and even better on "bulgarian training" 6 or 7x week).

But in reality, yes, there is a positive trend in increasing training frequency for hypertrophy, but is not a direct correlation as people imply. In most studies the difference is small and frequently it doesn't even reach statistical signifance.

What this means is everything else being equal, an increased training frequency will usually produce slightly better results. 
But it doesnt mean that lower frequencies will not work or can't be a good option (due to joint issues, personal preference, time to train...).


RE: The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - Simple Simon - 08-19-2019

"“I never lied or denied using steroids. Most people at some stage have used steroids, peptides, human growth etc to enhance their body."

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/lamborghini-body-instagram-powerlifter-admits-to-having-steroids-and-growth-hormones/news-story/32853d74f8ec2353426b5846421cfc3a


RE: The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - TruthSeeker - 08-19-2019

(08-19-2019, 12:12 PM)Simple Simon Wrote: "“I never lied or denied using steroids. Most people at some stage have used steroids, peptides, human growth etc to enhance their body."

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/lamborghini-body-instagram-powerlifter-admits-to-having-steroids-and-growth-hormones/news-story/32853d74f8ec2353426b5846421cfc3a

At least he is honest.


RE: The Real "Driver" of Muscle Growth - Simple Simon - 08-19-2019

^ "Officers found 100 Oxandrolone tablets, 50 Alprazolam tablets, two vials of methenolone, one vial of Trenbolone and 14 ampoules ... of testosterone

... 10 vials of the growth hormone, somatropin."

"“Let’s be realistic this Lamborghini body they said is made from ‘steroids’ is actually 90 per cent genetics and hard work … if it’s really from steroids everyone would have Lamborghini bodies.”"